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Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet??

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JT

06-14-2002 08:04:17




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I have been thinking about buying one of these. Are they reliable? Battery powered or solar powered better?

JT




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Nolan

06-18-2002 08:59:13




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
I'm with T-bone on this one. I've used some, and didn't like the way there was that microsecond of flash. An old fashioned helmet with the pivot set just right will hold up until you nod, dropping down nicely.



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rhudson

06-15-2002 18:42:34




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
i've tried a few of the cheaper ones, even one or two of the more expensive. they all seem to not filter enough of the arc. even the one that's adjustable to 13 is not dark enough for me. am i missing something? i would love to have one to speed up tack welding process before structural welding.



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T_Bone

06-15-2002 08:55:45




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
Weldinghoods

The most important part of a welding hood is the lens as it protects your eyes. Welding is very hard on your eyesight. I went from a minus 125 vision correction to minus 575 (coke bottles) in 20yrs of full time welding. I then backed off of full time welding(8hrs/day) to 8hrs/week for the next 10yrs then to couple welds a year for the next 10yrs and my vision in the past 10yrs has returned to minus 450. Not good but showing just how welding can effect your eyes.

There is a difference in a plastic lens and a all glass lens. A plastic lens will create a weld puddle distortion of two weld puddles with-in the lens area. One phoney weld puddle and the real weld puddle. This distortion can be seen best seen while Tig welding but is present under all types of welding. A all glass lens will stop the distortion. The best glass lens I found is called a Cool-Ray lens. The glass cool-ray lens has a layer of gold over the glass face. They cost about $60 eh but well worth it as your eyes will not be tired nor burned at the end of 8hrs of welding. Being there is a layer of gold on the outside of the lens, you want to use a fiber gasket, then a clear glass lens, then the glass cool-ray lens, then another clear glass lens on the inside. There is a gold colored plastic lens, this is not the correct lens!

Plastic corrective eye glasses will also give the weld puddle distrotion.

How can you tell if your eyes have been burned or your feeling the effects of welding? At night just before you fall asleep with your eyes closed you will feel a very warm feeling in your eyes. This is welding burn also called flash burn. Your eyes are telling you to do someting different!

Welding shade number:
I found over the years that a number 10 cool-ray is good for stick and Mig welding and a number 12 is good for Tig welding.

The best welding hood I've found is the Huntsman 411P. It's made from a lite weight fiber thats easy on the neck and cool on your face after 8hrs of welding. Plastic or fiberglass hoods will heat soak while welding where as the fiber hood will not heat soak.

Autodarkening welding hoods:
I'm not a fan of the auto hoods. One, they use a plastic lens and you get weld puddle distortion. Two, there heavy and your neck will let you know it at the end of the day. Three and the big one, what comes first to make the autodarken feature work? The ARC strike! so your eyes will pick-up a small amount of arc flash before the lens darkens.

So how do you tell where to stike the arc? Place your electrode next to where you going to strike the arc then flip down your hood, then strike the arc. With experience you will quickly master striking the arc where you want it.

T_Bone

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Keith

06-17-2002 09:22:17




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 Re: Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to T_Bone, 06-15-2002 08:55:45  
I definately agree with T Bone about the weight. I had a very light hood that I was used to and bought a new one that was some heavier. After a couple of days welding my neck was stiff as a board. I took the better lenses out of the new hood, put them in my old one and have never looked back. I cannot imagine using a heavier hood ever again. And, I don't see a need for self darkening, I don't have trouble getting arc strike where needed. i think this is all just a fad and will be forgotten in the future and everyone will be going back to 10-12 shade lenses and a lot of crappy companies owners will be rich as all heck, laughing it up on your dime.

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BFO

06-15-2002 04:52:27




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
My Hobart hasn't failed me yet..... .even gettin used to the flame graghics.



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Adam

06-14-2002 16:27:06




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
They are really worth the money. most run off battery and have a solar panel back up that charges the battery



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Bus Driver

06-14-2002 15:50:59




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
Seems that you were seeking opinions, so here goes. I have one several years old so prices were higher then than now. My recommendation is to buy well known brand and the largest effective viewing area that is available/affordable. Some of the really low cost ones have small viewing area that hinders if welding in odd positions-as one often does. Mine has plastic cover lense and I use it mostly for MIG. Stick electrodes spatter more and probably will damage the lense. Use the helmet only where there is an advantage. If the preview is not really needed, I use a conventional helmet to hopefully extend the life of the auto-helmet. Store it in clean place-maybe in plastic bag.

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John (OH)

06-14-2002 14:57:26




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
I got a jackson and a (cheep one that cost around $100) if you do much welding buy the good helmet also the cheep ones are hard to find cover lenses for and you will love the ease the helmet to get started welding and for filling holes



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Bret

06-14-2002 11:00:36




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
Just got a Hobart from TSC for $88.00. It's great.



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Brad

06-14-2002 10:47:46




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
I have a Speedglas 9000X. I love it. Battery operated to start the darkening with the arc, and then sustained with a solar panel. Really light in weight as well. Wish I had known Hobart was coming out with a Dale Jr. painted model hood and I would have bought that instead.

Brad



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ChuckR

06-14-2002 09:48:16




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 Re: Anybody got an auto darkening welding helmet?? in reply to JT, 06-14-2002 08:04:17  
Yes. I have a Lincoln and wouldn't be without it. Especially with mig on small stuff, lets me start at the right place.



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