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Pat D

06-02-2002 17:31:43




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I have just purchased two 8n's, one to work and one to restore. I am sure I am going to need a cutting torch for cutting things like bush hog shafts, and I would like to learn how to weld. I have probably read too many books. Are there any good beginers weld ing manuals?. What type of welder should a new shop have. How about a cutting torch? Thanks for your help




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Al

06-08-2002 11:17:07




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 Re: Beginner Welder. in reply to Pat D, 06-02-2002 17:31:43  
I'm in about the same boat as you with getting started. I now have gas torch. Before buying my torch I got advice here on this site as to which torch to buy and nearly everyone recommended Victor. I've been very satisfied with this brand. Good luck.



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Trucker

06-05-2002 10:46:08




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 Re: Beginner Welder. in reply to Pat D, 06-02-2002 17:31:43  
Look around and try and find a used welder,torch I would try and buy new.Get an American made torch and it will last a lifetime if you treat it right.I bought a welder first,but thats because I found a used one for 40.00 dollars,a used torch is allright if you see it work and its in good shape,what was expensive was the bottles.I bought mine,but you may be able to rent them.After you get one or the other ask somebody who can weld to show you how and practice,then when you know something about it try and find a course somewhere if you want,but it only took me an hour to learn how to weld,and lots of practice to weld good.It takes a long time to weld a bead you can trust your life on.Mostly dont allow yourself to weld a bad bead.Grind it out and do it again if it doesnt look right,it will save you a lot of trouble.Dont be in a hurry either,if it takes you 2 days at first to weld a good bead,take 2 days,that isnt bad.I can answer questions if I see them,its hard to tell you how to do it,just set a standard of excellence and keep to it.Follow the safety proceedures,read the manual,if you have one,they have a lot of usefull info in them.You kind of need to read and do it together,then you can see what they are talking about.Actually its not that hard to weld,its discipline you need to do it right and safe.I got a job as a welder when I got out of high school,its like somebody paying you to learn,but if you mess up something you had to fix it untill it was right or the piece was scrapped.Its too expensive to scrap new metal like that,you would be surprised just how small a pile of iron is worth 10,000 dollars.I allways was able to fix it one way or another,and got so good at it they brought me other peoples screw ups to fix sometimes.You might consider to find a part time job or something with on job training if you can,in about 2 weeks you will be fairly good .

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SteveB(wi)

06-03-2002 09:04:16




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 Re: Beginner Welder. in reply to Pat D, 06-02-2002 17:31:43  
Get the torch first, all those big, rusty, old bolts come apart easier when red hot. You can do some gas welding with it and cut off the bolts that won't come apart. You can get the stuff apart with the torch and take them somewhere to get welded until you can afford the welder. I'm like you and just bought a welder 10 years after I got torches. I bought a little MIG unit that will do up to 1/4" in one pass. I'm learning one weld at a time and not doing any welds yet that a life may depend on. The big or important stuff still goes to buddies for stick work.

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Don

06-05-2002 02:52:52




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 Re: Re: Beginner Welder. in reply to SteveB(wi), 06-03-2002 09:04:16  
Don't learn any bad habits..... .sign up for a welding class at one of the trade schools in your area..... they have classes in the evening....you can also learn what equipment you like best.....



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wrenchman

06-03-2002 00:05:21




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 Re: Beginner Welder. in reply to Pat D, 06-02-2002 17:31:43  
books are fine,but can't substitute for competent instruction...i would(i did)look at a local community college & see what night courses they offer & sign up for a bit...saves a LOT of trouble & mistakes & you get to try a few different welders & can better judge what works best for you...it would be well worth the trouble...btw,lincoln electric(the welder company)has a good website & makes some good manuals too...

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JMS/MN

06-07-2002 22:08:25




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 Re: Re: Beginner Welder. in reply to wrenchman, 06-03-2002 00:05:21  
If distance to a vo-tech is a problem, perhaps your community has classes in its local high school.

we have Community Ed classes in a wide variety of subjects for all ages, taught by locals, professional or otherwise. Also check into courses that welding equipment dealers put on. Good instruction saves a lot of grief and mistakes. Practice is very important, too.



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