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kfen

05-23-2002 14:16:31




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What is the best horizontal band saw for the $ for a home shop. I will be cutting mostly thin wall square tubing. I was looking at the saws at harbor freight.




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RANDY

06-03-2002 16:43:11




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
I HAVE A JET 12INCH SAW.
ENCO"S HAVE ONE THAT IS THE VERY SAME SAW BUT BLUE IT IS A GOOD SAW



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Gary Reif

05-25-2002 08:39:51




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
I know this is off the subject of the original question but I need some help on a small import bandsaw. I have a Buffalo model HVMBS-4.5 that I bought at an aution. They said a gear was stripped in the gearbox, well being a machinist I thought I could either find one to match it or make one, well when I got it home and took of the cover the gear was missing so now I don't even have a pattern. So since it seems most of these small import saws look the same in the catalogs I wonder if the gears might be similar. So, if anyone out there has one of these would you be kind enough to peek inside the gearbox and tell me the number of teeth on the gear. One guy told me that may have been a sort of nylon or plastic material.
Thanks for any help.
Gary

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Gene davis

05-24-2002 19:02:20




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
Have got an old Kalamazoo 610-d saw, will cut 7"hx10"w, was pleasently suprised last year to find out that parts were still available for it through Clausing Machinery , replaced the brass gear in the worm drive gear box, they(Clausing) could even supply a manual for it. I bought it used in 1968, sold it to the mining co, I worked for, and when they thought it was dead, I got it back and bought a gear for it and off we went again, Have never done much but keep it adjusted and lubricated, has been a tough one!! Gene Davis

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Chris C.

05-24-2002 17:51:07




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
I have an ENCO brand which seems to be just like the HF it has worked well for me for the last 6 years, but if you plan on cutting mostly hollow tubing, an abrasive cutoff saw might serve you better. Cutting through the upright edges on tubing is really hard on bandsaw teeth. If you go the bandsaw route, spend the extra $ for bi-metal blades (not import brand) Home Depot carries the RIGID brand for the common 64 1/2" length

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Dan

05-24-2002 04:22:56




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
I have a 4x6 and a 7x12 Jet. Both of these saws have been trouble free for 10+ years now. Both had no problems straight out of the box- no adjustments were required. Higher priced then the HF models.

From what I hear Grizzly has a good saw too. You can check them out at WWW.Grizzly.com



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mj

05-23-2002 21:08:06




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
I've had my HF saw about 10 yrs. and I've cut just about anything that would fit in it. Aside from initial setup and periodic adjustments it's been trouble-free. I see that HF now has a low-priced deepthroat saw. It's a bit more money but would be well worth it , especially when cutting sheet stock in the upright position. In "FARM SHOW" an issue or so ago there was a piece showing a HF saw converted to a wet saw, complete with new stand. For what you want to do I wouldn't hesitate on HF, mine's been good.

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VaTom

05-23-2002 18:34:19




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
My first metal saw was one of their cheapies. It worked pretty well. A friend borrowed it and dropped out the back of his pickup. The replacement was substantially more saw, originally sold by Grainger. What I found lacking in the HF saw was speed for larger steel and, more importantly, the ability to cut larger steel without cutting from both sides. I wanted to cut I beams. For thin wall tubing it'll be fine. It's shocking how much you have to spend to get a little more saw than what, last time I looked, was a $200 saw.

One problem I had with HF was a mis-drilled casting that prevented one blade guide from working correctly. Took them 2 months to get me a replacement casting. They thought I was rude to refuse to pay until I had a functioning tool. One of those times I was really happy to have an open account. Hope you know how to adjust and evaluate band saws. If I hadn't spotted the bad casting, I might have assumed the saws were junk. Band saws are definitely not a plug-it-in and go-to-work item. Gotta be adjusted correctly. Good luck.

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Mike W

05-23-2002 18:26:36




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
I have had a 4x6in HF type for years. I use it more then my larger one. I buy blade material in 100ft rools and sliver solder the blades, works great.



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Tom

05-23-2002 18:18:33




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 Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to kfen, 05-23-2002 14:16:31  
Well like many of the import tools the small import saws (they sell for $170 to 225) are OK if you realize you may need to make a few "adjustments". But for small projects, not taking up a bunch of space, and low cost they are hard to beat. I have done quite a bit with mine over the last 10 or 15 yrs I havae had it. I dis change the oil in the gearbox, put some 90 weight gear oil in, the stuff it came with looked used, it wasn't but it looked it.

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Mark Kw

05-24-2002 05:48:56




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 Re: Re: Horizontal band saw in reply to Tom, 05-23-2002 18:18:33  
Got a 7" x 14" wet cutting saw from H-F several years ago. Out of the box, only change I made was wiring the motors for 240v operation, came set for 120v. H-F blades ain't worth nothin, using Simonds 10 x 14 dual cut tooth blades with excellent results. All cast iron housings and bed with a quick release vise. I am very pleased with this saw using it almost daily. Only adjustment I can recall making was to the feed rate spring, came fully assembled except for wheels and coolant tank. Paid around $600 for it on sale, less than 1/2 that for a Carolina of the same size that is only made from sheet metal and has a real ugly vise. I got sections of roller conveyor I used for the in and out feed tables. Under these, I made drip pans from galv sheet steel to catch the coolant that runs over the stock and return it to the tank. The only other personal addition was cutting a piece of vinyl siding and attaching it to the scews that hold the forward blade guide just to help keep the coolant and chips from getting all over the gear box and motor.

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