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F14

05-03-2002 16:33:09




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I stumbled across a mess of 3/4 Iron Pipe with all the trimmin's, a couple of water traps, a couple of regulators and a oiler that I was able to horsetrade for, so I got my garage plumbed for air now.

Thanks to all the folks who have discussed this procedure in previous posts, the intallaton went well, and I'm tickled with the results. I have quick connects at the big bench for air tools, at the overhead door to the repair bay for tires and such, and one in the wood shop for nailers.

My question now is, what are my options on air hoses? The current el cheapo rubber ones I have are so stiff they're near impossible to coil, and they're always underfoot. Retractable reels are out of the question from an expense standpoint. I thought about the pre-coiled type, but I've heard they kink easily and then they're shot, and that they're generally more of a PITA than they're worth.

So, what do you recommend for a hose? Brand/Type? Are the swivels that are supposed to keep them from tangling any good?

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John Ne.

05-05-2002 09:18:14




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 Re: Air Hoses in reply to F14, 05-03-2002 16:33:09  
I just never leave the hoses on the floor, til the job is done, then only unreel enough that will reach the job, why have 30 ft laying on the floor when the job is only 10ft. from the wall? Hang them up, keep them wiped dry, dont' touch em with oily hands, in the shop, seems they rot real fast when oil is left on the ends near the disconnects. Have about 3 hoses around, one ten footer, 30 footer, and a 50 that only gets used to go outside. Have never liked the coiled hanging type, seems like you're always at the end of its elasticity, and seems to pull on the tools you're using, very bothersome to me. John in Nebraska

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bill b va

05-05-2002 07:33:37




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 Re: Air Hoses in reply to F14, 05-03-2002 16:33:09  

F14 where i used to work uses many air tools in production lines .i devised a method for the workers to be able to move back and forth with out the hoses being dragged on the floor and in the way. i used the coil hoses on a sort of over head trolley . think of a upside down clothes line with the posts mounted to the ceiling . with a 25 foot coil hose you can move about 20 feet in either direction .iused galvanized solid clothes line wire pulled taunt with what i called carriers . i made the carriers from 1/8" x 1" x 8" flat iron with holes drilled 1/4" from the ends .next 1" of each end was bent up 90 degrees .next i brazed a pipe coupling to the back side for the air in and air out lines . this contraption needs to be threaded on the wire and will function like a dog run. the air line connection to carrier with coil hose should be to the side and above to avoid tangles . also center it in the run .the drop can be made with coil hose and a leader for the tool or just a straight hose .be glad to help with any questions .

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Cliff Neubauer

05-04-2002 16:06:47




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 Re: Air Hoses in reply to F14, 05-03-2002 16:33:09  
I have a 50' 3/8" Goodyear hose on a $20 wind up reel that works really good. Keeping them wound up greatly lengthens hose lengh, our other hose has been spliced several times due to being too close to metal being cut by the torch.



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Bill

05-04-2002 00:19:12




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 Re: Air Hoses in reply to F14, 05-03-2002 16:33:09  
Been buying my blue hoses from Wal-Mart. Been real happy with them. Was using and old garden hose wall mounted holder to hang them on. Hanging'em on a peg shortens life. Then went one step farther. Bought $20 air hose reels from Harbor Frieght. When done I can wind up 100 feet of hose in well under a minute with the hand crank built into the unit. While winding I keep a rag in my other hand to run the hose through while I crank... Since I had those reels I haven't tripped over a hose left out & they stay CLEAN....

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John in MA

05-03-2002 18:48:45




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 Re: Air Hoses in reply to F14, 05-03-2002 16:33:09  
Goodyear industrial rubber air hoses are the best I've found. Very high quality stuff. HF usually sells 50' lengths for arounf $20.



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Rod (NH)

05-03-2002 18:35:24




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 Re: Air Hoses in reply to F14, 05-03-2002 16:33:09  
Hi there F14.

My recommendation for air hose would be Parker #831. This is an excellent black, rubber hose with available Push-Loc fittings that are extremely easy to install. The 3/8" size has a recommended max working pressure of 300 psig. I have 20 feet of this hose that I have used for well over 10 years in fairly rough service. It is extremely flexible, oil-proof, and coils easily, even in very cold weather. It doesn't split or crack like the cheapos do after about a year. It is expensive (was $2.40/ft when I bought it) but well worth it.

I have tried the coiled plastic hoses but dislike them for general use. About the only application I would consider those for is an overhead connection supplying a tool on a workbench where the coiled hose would, for the most part, be up out of the way and not subject to getting stepped on or otherwise getting tangled up in stuff. Give me a good quality rubber hose any day, even if it is underfoot at times :o).

I also have a couple of 25 ft lengths of made up plastic hose (uncoiled) that is commonly used to supply pneumatic nailers that carpenters use. It was rather inexpensive as I recall. I use that if I have to extend my compressed air line way outside my inside work area on rare occaisions. They do not take the place of my Parker hose though. That is my old faithfull standby.

I would recommend a 3/8" hose for general purpose use with a six foot leader of 1/4" hose at the tool end for most tools...this makes it a little easier to handle in tight places like an engine compartment. I also use a 1/4" drive pneumatic ratchet and a die grinder quite a bit. The 1/4" leader hose is great for these small tools.

Rod

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JohnnyK

05-03-2002 17:53:39




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 Re: Air Hoses in reply to F14, 05-03-2002 16:33:09  
Here is a link to coilhose, They have a line of high quality polyurethane hoses that are well beyond expectations. I have had one in continuous use for three years at work, and have had no problems. You will need Adobe Acrobat Reader to look at the product pages



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