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Jim M (RI)

04-25-2002 11:10:21

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I need a storage barn/shed to store all these tractors and engines I am accumulating. Thinking of dirt floor, open front, somewhere around 24x48. I have built houses and garages, but never a pole barn. Any suggestions and/or advice would be appreciated. I would like as few support poles as possible to allow for freedom of movement. That might dictate the width and/or roof line. I was thinking of a slant roof with an overhange on the front. I live in New England so I would like to start on this in the summer with hopes of having a roof on before winter. Thanks for all you help and chat.

Jim

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Bob

04-27-2002 19:26:03

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Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Jim M (RI), 04-25-2002 11:10:21

From my experience, find the size you want, double it, and build that size. I went 30x40x10, silly me,now I need a 40x72x10.

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VaTom

04-27-2002 20:27:39

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Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Bob, 04-27-2002 19:26:03

Rule of nature: no matter how big you make it, it's only a function of time before you fill it.

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wade in ga

04-26-2002 16:26:19

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Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Jim M (RI), 04-25-2002 11:10:21

try this link,they have all kinds of farm building plans for free.

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Jay Fenwick

04-26-2002 10:22:30

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Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Jim M (RI), 04-25-2002 11:10:21

Try this web site www.socketsystems.com I am about half finshed with my 30x40.

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Charley

04-25-2002 18:38:05

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Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Jim M (RI), 04-25-2002 11:10:21

Just finished a 80x24 equipment shed. Used 4x6 treated posts set in ground, metal painted siding (three sides)and roof, and trusses on 4 foot centers. Back and end posts are on 8 foot centers and front are on 10 and 12 foot centers to make the distance work out. cost of materials is a little over $2.00 per square foot. Ceiling is 10 foot. It isn't big enough! Hope this helps.

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redneck

04-25-2002 16:13:03

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Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Jim M (RI), 04-25-2002 11:10:21

First rule of barns:
You can never build a barn big enough.

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F14...Been there

04-25-2002 14:25:42

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Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Jim M (RI), 04-25-2002 11:10:21

Done that. Mine is 20x32 with a 10x26 Ell. I've got $8000 in mine, but I went a little nuts on the truss and decking for the hayloft. If you're going one story, you could probably chop $2000 off that easy.

Construction Pix

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ShepFL

04-26-2002 17:42:07

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Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to F14...Been there, 04-25-2002 14:25:42

F14 -
That is one nice looking barn! I would liked to have gone 2 story but did not have funds or equipment with my DIY metal shop. I really like the look of a wood barn of any age. Metal is good tho for my climate (FL) with the humidity and termites.

Maybe one day when I can afford to retire and move back home to Idaho.

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F14...Thanks!

04-27-2002 04:18:14

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Re: Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to ShepFL, 04-26-2002 17:42:07

It's all part of the nostalgia thing. If I were rolling in bucks, I'da built a post-and-beam like we had on the farm back in Michigan.

This'll do tho, I'm really tickled with it, other than the usual "I wish I'd built it bigger" stuff.

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T_Bone

04-25-2002 19:02:03

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Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to F14...Been there, 04-25-2002 14:25:42

Hi F14,

Nice pictures and a nice barn. Where are you at as our prices for materials in Arizona are twice as expensive.

Some of the neighbors have been building and all are complaining our prices are high. Thinking we might send someone for a wood run.

T_Bone

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F14

04-26-2002 04:47:30

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Re: Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to T_Bone, 04-25-2002 19:02:03

I'm in Maine, about 70 miles from the border with New Brunswick, Canada.

I got a heck of a deal on the 1x10 #4 pine I used for siding. Pretty stuff, if you picked it over, 75% of it would grade #2 at most lumber yards. At the time, it was cheaper than CDX plywood!

Usetabe a lot of lumber produced here, but not so much any more. Subsidized Canadian lumber has really driven the price down.

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buck

04-25-2002 12:36:37

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Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Jim M (RI), 04-25-2002 11:10:21

just something for thought--Most building supply places carry what they call yard truss. In my area this is 24' with 1' overhang and 4:1 roof pitch. This truss is less expensive that other trusses.For the back wall I would suggest 6x6 treated post on 8' centers and for the front wall 6x6 post on 12' centers to work well with your 48' length. Cover it all with galvanized or pre painted metal of your choice. Your local conditions will dictate the depth to plant the poles,header dementions and truss spacing.

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Truck

04-25-2002 13:41:24

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Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to buck, 04-25-2002 12:36:37

I've seen folks use pressure treated for teh in ground portion of the post and normal lumber above ground. Seems like it would save a little money for ya, at the expense of a little scabbing and nailing.

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Brian G. NY

04-25-2002 19:28:54

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Re: Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Truck, 04-25-2002 13:41:24

"Morton" built mine (a lot more expensive than building your own like F-14 did); good job, F-14!! Morton uses high quality pressure treated 2 X 6s (3 plys) for the portion underground and up 2 or 3 ft. above ground. They then use untreated 2 X 6s above that. They stagger them at the transition point and nail with Galv. spikes. They claim that laminating 2 x 6s to make a 6 x 6 provides a much more rot resistant "pole" as the pressure treatment fully penetrates each 2 x 6 which is not the case with a full 6 x 6. Makes sense!? "Redneck" is absolutely right; mine is 36'x 45' and so full I can hardly walk thru it. Morton's poles are 7-1/2" on Ctr. You might want to look at a few pole buildings in your area for ideas. I don't know where in the northeast you are but there are a lot of Mortons (and similar brands) in upstate NY, CT and NW Massachusets. I had mine built before I retired, but if I had it to do again, I'd do it myself and save some money.

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T_Bone

04-25-2002 14:06:10

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Re: Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to Truck, 04-25-2002 13:41:24

I would look at prefab all metal buildings. Hard to beat the price sometimes and they build very quick.

T_Bone

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ShepFL

04-26-2002 17:54:33

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to T_Bone, 04-25-2002 14:06:10

Jim -
I have to agree with T-Bone. You may want to consider a pre-fab metal bldg. I live in FL and the weather, sun and termites down here are tough on wood. I chose to build a pre-fab metal shop with full concrete slab. It is 30x60x14. This summer I plan on adding a lean off one side running the whole length. This is where I will store my implements and tractors.

Below are some construction pics. Monday I am having my doors installed and I will be DONE!!
(with the main bldg anyways). I would have liked to gone 2 story but only me doing 98% of the work and no hi-reach equipment.

Shep's Ollie Home

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VaTom

04-27-2002 20:33:16

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to ShepFL, 04-26-2002 17:54:33

Looks like it'll work but where's that crane that was supposed to stick up through the roof? I'm disappointed.

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ROFLMA !!! (ShepFL) Big Grins here!!

04-27-2002 23:06:32

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Barn suggestions in reply to VaTom, 04-27-2002 20:33:16

Crane has been postponed until wife gets her new Taj Mahal built out here in the sticks. Made her a promise - she let me buy some land again and move back to the country I would have a new house built for her.

Little did I understand the depth of THAT promise. Closed 2 weeks ago and all I got money for is the doors. Priority now is the lean to after doors installed. I will send pics of the crane when installed. Almost had me a full length trolley crane from ebay but seller never responded to my inquiries. Ended up no one bought it and it is still sitting in the FL Keys. Maybe Mudcat could haul it my way. . .

Take Care

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