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Todd

04-19-2002 20:46:36

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Is there a huge difference in the wrenches at wally-world and the ones at sears ?? I can see a little in the ratchets and sockets, but not the wrenches. Also you can buy them at Home Depot a lot cheaper too. Whats the big differene in Craftsmans $15.00 for one wrench, and Wallys $15.00 for a whole set??? Any help will be great.

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Don H

04-25-2002 17:07:29

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

A lot of you guys have had a lot better luck with Craftsman tools than I have. They just don't seem to hold up any more and I have had trouble with the store wanting to replace them. I just don't buy anything from Sears anymore.

Allen tools seem to hold up well, S-K are good, Mac is another good name. Everybody has to buy what they think is right for them.

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Ichabod

04-23-2002 18:04:58

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

Most of my tools are Craftsman, but I bought a set of WalMart 1/2 inch drive metric and standard sockets and a ratchet. Been using the sockets with my impact wrench for several years and haven't broken one or rounded a bolt yet. Just finished reworking a harrow and boxblade with them. I did break the ratchet trying to remove a frozen bolt from the front axle of my old tractor years ago. Course, the 4 foot long piece of pipe I used for a cheater bar might have had a little bit to do with it. Took it back and they gave me a new one. If you buy a set of wrenches from anybody, if it has a lifetime warranty, it's likely ok. At least that has been my experience.

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Bill

04-21-2002 11:02:00

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

I agree with the majority here. Crafstman seems to be the way to go.... But.... Has anyone out there had trouble exchanging ratchets? Last time one of mine wore out I brought it back to the local Sears & they handed me a rebuilt ratchet that I wouldn't keep in my litter box... I have a temper tantrum yelling I take care of my tools, except that it is worn out doesn't the tool Im returning look NEW? Sears- Well yes it does... Does this thing you handed me look new???? Sears- No we have them "refurbished".... After more temper tantrum the guy hands me a case of "refurbished " ratchets & says to paw through it till I find one suitable.... Has anyone else had this expierence?

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Denny Frisk

04-21-2002 15:25:37

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Re: Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Bill, 04-21-2002 11:02:00

Last time My 1/4" ratchet "Died" I took it into Sears & instead of giving Me the rebuild kit They handed Me a whole NEW RATCHET!.. Said the design of the old one I had, about 30 yrs old was poor & not worth fixing anymore. They must be right... I haven't broken the new one in almost 10 yrs! CD mentioned ALLEN tools. ALLEN used to and maybe still does make Craftsman hand tools. Stanley makes the HUSKY Brand for HD.

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04-22-2002 20:39:26

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Re: Re: Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Denny Frisk, 04-21-2002 15:25:37

I did not know about Allen making Craftsman tools, I have modern Allen and Craftmans wrenches and ratchets in my toolbox and they are not similar, but the Allen stuff holding up equally well. I have exchanged ratchets without trouble and many other abused tools, I think the sales people do not realise whats going on and just hand the new tools out like candy, quite nice really. This tools thing kinda brings me to how there is no copy of Channel Lock or Vise Grips that is as good as them, they are like the gospel of the tool world, I hate that other junk, the real mc coy seems safer (busted knuckles and bleeding hands).

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Joseph F. Cizek II

04-21-2002 12:50:11

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Re: Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Bill, 04-21-2002 11:02:00

I have never had this problem with Sears. One reason is because I rebuild my own ratchets. A number of years ago I bought about a dozen kits to rebuild ratchets, they contain a new pawl,pins, springs ,spring washers,snaprings, and 1/2" drive unit. It is not very hard to rebuild your ratchets. I know that there places to buy this type rebuild kits. Does anyone else know where to buy the rebuild kits, as I can't buy the kits at the place I where I bought them because of cutbacks in stock or the store buying people not knowing their product that they are selling.Is it just me or is there more and more unhelpful,helpless and unknowing clerks at Sears????

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Bill

04-21-2002 15:50:09

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Re: Re: Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Joseph F. Cizek II, 04-21-2002 12:50:11

Lack of customer service? It's not just happening at Sears... It's all over. It's the next generation of workforce. They don't know the meaning of "work"/earn your pay. I was in the market for groceries yesterday. The bagger was either making time with the girl at the next register or looking around the store blankly while trying to put the same item unsucessfully into the bag for the FOURTH time because he couldn't pay attertion to what he was SUPPOSSED to be doing cause he was too wrapped up in either hormones or wondering why he ain't been promoted/got a raise yet. In all honesty I think I was out of place telling the kid look I'm in a hurry, I'll bag & you make time at the next register uninterupted or stare blankly while the next person waites for their order& then asked him to step aside. The fault really lies with the store supervision/lack of. Stores hiring MANAGERS off the street cause they have a degree in management? Do you think they know what your talking about/rebuilding a ratchet? They have theory comming out their ears but nothing from the school of life. My wife has a better idea of the inventory at the local Wal-Marts than the 25 or so year old "Manager"..... Sorry, I'll get down offa my stump now. You kinda touched a nerve there.....

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Denny Frisk

04-21-2002 16:25:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Bill, 04-21-2002 15:50:09

I know My way around most hardware stores better than most of the help by the second time I go in them!

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04-20-2002 19:23:45

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

I dont know if you have a dealer, but I buy ATD tools. They are also available at Auto Value and NAPA. They have lifetime warranty and hold up very well. A set of wrenches....$20.00!!! Can't beat it!!

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04-20-2002 18:47:09

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

Wally World sells (or at least did sell) Stanley wrenches and socket sets, which are pretty decent quality. They also sell some stuff that is very cheap and good only for lightweight rare usage.

One of the best times I have found to stock up on Craftsman tools is the day after Thanksgiving, when Sears runs some very good specials. I always get some stuff at that time, even if I don't need it.

IMO, there is no such thing as having too many tools.

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BillD

04-20-2002 18:13:18

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

I like Craftsman and have used them for almost 50 years I keep a few of the cheapies to heat, bend or otherwise abuse for special uses Sears has never refused to honor the warrenty So what more can any one ask for

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04-20-2002 17:26:29

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

Buy the Craftsman, also Allen has good stuff, along with Mac, Snap-on and so on. Some people replied here about putting cheap sets in their truck toolbox, problem is, is when you break one you most likely really needed to have it, we have a full set in a big fiberglass rubbermaid box that we keep between the tractors and truck, with this box, if we can't fix it, we can re-engineer it. With no fear of busting a breaker bar or something like that, downtime is expensive!

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big fred

04-20-2002 13:56:17

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

Most of my good wrenches are Craftsman or Husky, with a few assorted others thrown in, but my favorite 3/8 ratchet is a cheapo Taiwan job that I stole from under the seat of T-Bone's truck (just kidding, I bought it to keep in my car years ago). My 3/8 Craftsman ratchet keeps breaking, and this little Taiwan job just keeps going and going. I finally quit replacing the Craftsman and just use the cheapy. I find I use the 3/8 drive stuff a lot, since it fits in tight places better than the 1/2.

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Jiff

04-20-2002 15:59:00

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Re: Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to big fred, 04-20-2002 13:56:17

I had a Monkey Ward 3/8 ratchet that was made in Taiwan, the sockets were absolute junk, but the ratchet was unbreakable.

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Greaseman

04-20-2002 10:27:19

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

I have many tools that have come from many,many different companies, I purchased a complete "SK" set of 3/8 drive sockets including breaker bars and ratchets for about $15 last summer. I have some socket sets from Harbor Freight and had gfood results, I go with Craftsman for tools I know I will abuse the H--- out of (hammers, etc) otherwise get a good set and maintain it. For my "Real Job" I use Cresent se I purchased from Sam's Club, I've had pretty good luck so far except people like to borrow them.

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Ron NY

04-20-2002 08:37:18

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

I am also a fan of Craftsman tools. I have seen truely abused tools replaced with a smile (based on their lifetime warranty). One suggestion, if you are going to buy a "set" of Craftsman, purchase the largest set you can afford, even stretch a bit. It's much cheaper this way than buying individual add-on's later. Watch the sales, some of the combination tool sets with storage cabinets can save you big $$$. Another money saver is to join the "Craftsman Club" on-line. It's free, and there are some special offers, coupons etc. for members.

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Greg AZ

04-20-2002 07:52:12

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

I keep two sets in my shop. Good ones, Snap-on, Mac, Matco, Craftsman, Blackhawk, S-K in my big Snap-on taco wagon, and el cheapo stuff in an el cheapo box. When friends or customers come to the shop to "help", they use the el cheapo stuff. If they break them or lose them, who cares? Costs me about fifty dollars a year for el cheapo replacement, but I haven't lost a good tool in the four years I have been in this shop. Just my two cents. All the best..... .Greg

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tortmort

04-20-2002 06:52:55

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

I use Craftsman exclusively. Sears is great about the warranty. The cheapo tools are fine for emregency set in car etc but will easily break. Day in and day out Craftsman is best value. Not the most expensive but a good tool that should last. As previously discussed, you can find then second hand and add to a basic set. Buy American and buy the best you can afford.Look for a sale whcih sears often has on their tools.

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Joseph F. Cizek II

04-20-2002 04:17:12

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

You get what you pay for as far as I'm concerned. I have seen fellow maintance mechanics start out with wally world or simular tools and whine about the breakage and problems with their tools. I have seen more than my fair share of busted knuckles,cuts, and other boo boos caused by poor quality of tools. At work all I use is Craftsman tools some Snapon, Mac also. My grandfather,bless this man for his wisdom, if you are going to use you tools buy the best and they will last your life time. I have my grandfathers complete set of Craftsman wrenches that he bought in 1964, granted some have been replaced with new due to hard use, but 90% are still just like the day they were bought. I am using this set at home along with my teenage daughters to fix up their trucks and build my 55 Ford truck. Joseph

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shoe

04-19-2002 22:48:46

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

It's hard to beat a craftsman tool for the price,
quality, and warranty. There is a real difference
in the craftsman and wally world tools when it comes to quality. I kind of like to buy American
also.

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wrenchman

04-19-2002 22:03:13

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

i haven't bought new craftsman tools in years.you can usually get em used at flea markets & pawn shops for 1/2 new price or less...nother good brand is stanley.they are a little cheaper & good quality...get the best you can afford even if they are used.that way you only buy once...the cheap stuff is like T-Bone says,only good to keep in the truck for emergencies...

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JoeK

04-19-2002 21:32:20

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

I'm prolly gonna get a lot of flaack for this but,for the average homeowner/tinker/shade tree mechanic,inexpensive tools will probably do you just fine.On expensive tools a lot of research goes into design,as to balance,strength points,resistance to wear,corrosion,chemicals etc,which costs are passed along to the buyer.A person who uses their tools daily and heavily is willing to pay this cost which is returned in less fatigue,injury,tool replacement costs and more work done without failure....I have both kinds,kept separately.The hi$ tools are kept in the shop mostly,and the cheaper stuff is in the carry box in the truck.All these tools have served me for yrs in non-professional uses,and while I have seldom had to replace a quality(hi$)tool,a few cheap ones have failed and been replaced(usually do to exceeding the tools ability)with a cheater bar or hammer(oops)

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T_Bone

04-19-2002 21:31:38

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Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Todd, 04-19-2002 20:46:36

Hi Todd,

I've never bought Wal-mart wrenchs but have bought cheap wrench sets in the past. The steel is pretty soft and if you reef on them the jaws will stretch open or ware to the point that they won't grip a nut anymore.

I usually buy a $40 set, socket set, wrenchs, screw driver, plires, etc; in a hard plastic case to keep in a new car that if I would have to use them one time, I can afford to throw them way but have seldom ever needed them. I do hate going anywhere without tools along and can't see to throw my good tools in when I probably won't need them nor do I want to remember each time to put them. The cheap ones fill this need. Other than that there a waste of money!

T_Bone

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Kurt

04-21-2002 14:57:14

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Re: Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to T_Bone, 04-19-2002 21:31:38

Hi,

The expensive part you ruin rounding off the edges with a cheap piece of foreign junk tool will convince you to buy high quality american made tools. It's cheaper in the end to pay your money up front.

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Bill

04-21-2002 15:53:13

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Re: Re: Re: Wal-Mart Wrenches ?? in reply to Kurt, 04-21-2002 14:57:14

I call them "Safety Sockets" The bolt stays good & the socket rounds off.....

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