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Denis

04-19-2002 16:17:12




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I have posted a message in the tractor talk section for an oil filter that has been discontinued for a Renault tractor and I doubt if I will find one in the near future.The oil filter is the cartridge type. Can I run my tractor with no oil filter if I change the oil more often? Or should I clean the old one? The old one is pretty dirty and I don`t want it to plug and damage the motor.How do you clean it?

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Nolan

04-23-2002 04:31:52




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 Re: Oil Filter in reply to Denis , 04-19-2002 16:17:12  
Baldwin and Wix both guarantee they either have a filter that will fit your machine on the shelf right now, or they will make you one, with not machining cost passed on to you. Just the cost of the filter.

I've taken Baldwin up on this once, and sure enough, they held true to their word and now have a special filter for an unusual pump assembly for VW bugs.



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Glenn(WV)

04-20-2002 21:28:16




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 Re: Oil Filter in reply to Denis , 04-19-2002 16:17:12  
Have you tried Fleetguard? Give their customer service center a call at 1-800-22-Filter.



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Trucker

04-20-2002 16:45:46




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 Re: Oil Filter in reply to Denis , 04-19-2002 16:17:12  
You might call a company that makes filters such as Baldwin,I think they are in Nebraska,and ask them if they make one,or you ought to be able to make an adapter for a spin on,better ask somebody that knows about this first because you need this adapter to have a bypass if theres not one in the block.



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rhudson

04-20-2002 14:29:38




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 Re: Oil Filter in reply to Denis , 04-19-2002 16:17:12  
i would hope that the filter element you need is out there somewhere. but as a last resort, find a good machinest, maybe with racecar experience. you should be able to have an adapter made that will bolt to your tractor and allow a screw on filter to be used. or adapt a remote oil flter kit as others have suggested. if you spend any money at NAPA, i'd wash the old element and carry it to them. if they want to , they can usually find what you need.

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Al English

04-19-2002 19:11:14




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 Re: Oil Filter in reply to Denis , 04-19-2002 16:17:12  
Hi Denis,

Some filter catalogs have a section that lists filter elements by size. If you can find a parts store that still uses catalogs, and someone there who is willing to spend a little time helping you, there's a good chance there is a replacement available. The counterman will need accurate and complete measurements of the old filter.

Your oil system is going to have a filter bypass valve somewhere in the system. This prevents filter blockage from starving the engine of oil. However, these valves are usually somewhat restrictive. If the filter is really bad, I would remove it, make sure the inside of the housing is clean, and temporarily run without a filter. If you can't find a replacement then, as Kevin suggested, see if it's practical to plumb in a remote unit. Good luck...Al English

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G Taylor

04-20-2002 18:59:32




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 Re: Re: Oil Filter in reply to Al English, 04-19-2002 19:11:14  
If only a shorter filter can be found perhapes a spacer donut could be machined to hold the bottom of the filter up into place?



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Al English

04-23-2002 18:03:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil Filter in reply to G Taylor , 04-20-2002 18:59:32  
So long as the smaller filter wasn't so small that it restricted flow, a shorter filter with a spacer would be fine. It would just need changing a little more often. However, the oil filter bypass valve feature I mentioned is sometimes provided by oil pressure forcing the restricted filter out of position against its retaining spring. This allows oil to flow past the end of the restricted filter element. If that's how this filter is set-up it would be important to insure the spacer for the new filter compressed the spring about the same amount as it was originally. Or to put it another way, the difference in length between the two filters is exactly how tall the spacer should be...Al English

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Kevin

04-19-2002 17:06:38




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 Re: Oil Filter in reply to Denis , 04-19-2002 16:17:12  
I would give some serious thought to trying to fit a remote oil filteration kit to your tractor. That way you could switch to spin on filters. Having no idea what your set up looks like, I could just be sounding like an idiot, but .02 never hurts.



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charlie

04-19-2002 17:05:07




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 Re: Oil Filter in reply to Denis , 04-19-2002 16:17:12  
whats the number of the filter.



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Denis

04-19-2002 17:42:53




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 Re: Re: Oil Filter in reply to charlie, 04-19-2002 17:05:07  
There is no number on the old one



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Greaseman

04-20-2002 14:29:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil Filter in reply to Denis, 04-19-2002 17:42:53  
I would try taking the old one to a reptable auto parts dealer (wrapped in a plastic bag) and see if they can cross reference it to a current application. Luck.



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Mark Kw

04-22-2002 06:44:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil Filter in reply to Greaseman, 04-20-2002 14:29:14  
I'll back up Kevin and the other guys who said about using a different filter. You may have to use or have an adapter made to fit the engine but you can readily buy what are called "remote mount filter housings" that will accept a standard spin-on filter. If you have an existing pressure port and return port, installing a remote filter base is easy. You can plumb it in with flex rubber high pressure oil hose (hydraulic hose) and put the filter anywhere it is viable for you.

You may be able to find a replacement filter for the existing housing but be prepared to do a lot of searching if it's really an odd ball size. You may get lucky and find something close enough to fit or possibly changing only the lower section of the existing housing to fit a common filter. This would save you a good bit of screwing around but you may have no choice but to change the whole filter set-up. Let us know how you make out.

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Denis

04-22-2002 07:50:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil Filter in reply to Mark Kw, 04-22-2002 06:44:07  
I`m giving myself one more week to find a filter. Then I`ll try to fit a spin-on. You have given me alot of good suggestions. Will get back to you



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