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JD G GUY

04-12-2002 13:57:19




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i wrote recently about a block heater that blew out on my chevy. well i bought a frost plug and went to put it in and was workin at it for a while and i was getting really sick of trying to get it seated and was tired and i hit it too hard with the little hammer and drove it inside the water jacket and there is no way for me to get it out. i was aondering will i NEED a rebuild or could i just put another frost plug in. i think that it wouldnt cool right with it in there and it would act like another thermostat just permanantly. has this happened to anyone else? please help.

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Greg

04-14-2002 14:23:55




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 Re: im screwed in reply to JD G GUY, 04-12-2002 13:57:19  
Been there done that, G!! The way I always bailed myself out was this: if the freeze plug is steel, I used a flexible magnet (like the kind parts stores give away, with an adjustable handle), grab the plug with it, and with water pump pliers, grab the plug and pull it out sideways. If brass, get one of those three-fingered "grabbers" and get hold of the plug and then use water pump pliers as explained above.Always works for me. Leaving the plug in causes no problem usually. Most flat-rate "hacks" do it all the time, as already mentioned. Good luck.....Greg

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Bill

04-13-2002 07:23:58




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 Re: im screwed in reply to JD G GUY, 04-12-2002 13:57:19  
Just a thought. Could you drill a small hole in it and then use a silde hammer to pull it. Or maybe grap the screw with a pair of vise grips and extract it. Good luck.



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RayP(MI)

04-12-2002 19:19:21




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 Re: im screwed in reply to JD G GUY, 04-12-2002 13:57:19  
Lost a freeze plug a few years ago, when trying to install a block heater. Resisted my every try to recover it. Finally installed the block heater, and it never was a problem!



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Kevin

04-13-2002 07:13:59




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 Re: Re: im screwed in reply to RayP(MI), 04-12-2002 19:19:21  
I knew a garage mechanic that would try to remove bad freeze plugs for about 5 minutes max, then would punch them into the engine and leave them. Methinks that there were/are many many engines out there with freeze plugs inside running just fine!



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keith morris

04-12-2002 14:21:35




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 Re: im screwed in reply to JD G GUY, 04-12-2002 13:57:19  
It will work with it in there but if you can get it out would be better. If you can get a hold on it just turn it sideways and pull it out.



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JD G GUY

04-12-2002 17:29:58




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 Re: Re: im screwed in reply to keith morris, 04-12-2002 14:21:35  
i tried to get it to do that but it rolled to the front a little ways. i would have thought that it would block off one of the water jackets and overheated it? or is that still possible?

Andy



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keith morris

04-12-2002 17:42:37




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 Re: Re: Re: im screwed in reply to JD G GUY, 04-12-2002 17:29:58  
It will be ok I have run several of them like this. But if you can get a small magnet and see if you can get at it like that. It will rust away in time. It is best to get them out but if you can't it will still work. As i said I have run several of them this way with no trouble.



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Jon Kraatz

04-13-2002 00:15:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: im screwed in reply to keith morris, 04-12-2002 17:42:37  
If you can see even one edge of it still you can get it out. If you can see the edge, get ahold of it with a pair of Vise-Grips and pry it out that way. By tightening the vise-grips a little too tight, you can hang on to it while you use the backside of the pliers to lever it out. Once you get it moving toward the block hole, it will deform enough to come right out. If not, it will be bent up enough to come back out also. Just don't try punching a hole through it. If you do that, most of the time it only drives it in deeper .

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JD G GUY

04-13-2002 10:34:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: im screwed in reply to Jon Kraatz, 04-13-2002 00:15:45  
the plug is about 3/4" or a little less below the hole ive triend everything i can think of from thin peices of bent sheet metal to electric fence wire. maybe just try to bent something up to hit to seat it in that place really well? thank you all for replying



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JD G GUY

04-14-2002 12:29:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: im screwed in reply to JD G GUY, 04-13-2002 10:34:22  
i was dinkin around with it this morning and got it out i used a peice of electric fence wire to move it up to where i could get it with a pleirs thanks for the help.
Andy



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