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shawn

04-10-2002 05:57:07




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how do you tell the number on the glass in a welding mask? and what is the minimum # needed?, what is a good # to use? thanks




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Mike

04-11-2002 11:10:32




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 Re: welding mask in reply to shawn, 04-10-2002 05:57:07  
Shawn, just talk to me later, I`d be glad to take you down to Haun and get you one of everything in stock. Dad



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T_Bone

04-10-2002 16:03:35




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 Re: welding mask in reply to shawn, 04-10-2002 05:57:07  
Hi shawn,

Lke the other posters said be very selective in what you protect your eyes with.

I'll give my speach again about using plastic lens. Plastic causes a lens distortion creating two weld puddles, one being the correct weld puddle and one phoney puddle that will distract you. You have to be looking for the second phoney weld puddle but it's there.

Glass will not distort the weld puddle. The finest glass welding lens that I've ever used is called "Cool-Ray lens". This welding lens has a thin layer of gold on the outside and is all glass lens. I like shade #10 as it's like a normal shade 11. The #10 is good for all stick welding. I use a #12 for some Mig and alot of my Tig welding exspecailly if out side. Between these two lens is all I ever used. The cost about $60 for a cool-ray lens. I use a clear glass lens, then the cool-ray, then another clear glass on the inside. If you scratch the gold the lens is ruined. I've only broke one cool-ray lens in the past 25yrs I've been using them and that was from dropping my hood several stories.

Along with a great lens you might as well get the finest welding hood and that is a Huntsman 411P. It's a very light weight paper fiber hood. I cut a piece of soft suede leather from a long cuff welding glove and attach that to the neck part of the hood. This keeps the skin in the V of your shirt from getting burned and dingle berries from getting into your shirt while overhead welding and close up Tig welding. I use a thin strip of 22ga SS x 3/8" wide and sandwich the leather to the hood with pop rivets. So I end up with a SS Band, leather, hood, SS band on the inside of the hood. Use 1/8" long SS pop-rivets. I cut the leather 6"x7" to start with then trim for comfort once attached.
I would suggest you start with a old hood first to see exactly what suits you before doing this to your best hood.

With this set-up your eyes will be cool at the end of the day and without strain.

Is glass safe? I've been wearing all glass eye correction for the past 50yrs and using all glass in my welding hoods for the past 35yrs. In that time I have had one cut that required a couple stiches from a auto accident caused by my eye glass cutting my eye brow.

T_Bone

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fRobbman

04-11-2002 17:05:24




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 Re: Re: welding mask in reply to T_Bone, 04-10-2002 16:03:35  
They make a hardened safety glass if you are concerned about the typical cover plate. It of course costs more. $60 for a gold plated lens seems steep. A lot of these are manufactured in the $5 to $10 range. I will have to call my buds at the distributorship and find out what this is all about.



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T_Bone

04-11-2002 17:34:32




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 Re: Re: Re: welding mask in reply to fRobbman, 04-11-2002 17:05:24  
As they say, you get what you pay for.

The cheaper gold lens are usually plastic or I have one other glass gold lens that had a gold like plating but not the true 24k gold plate.

The fakes are a very bright yellow looking gold where as the true gold lens is a deep rich gold coloring. Very easy to see the difference and more so when you strike that first arc.

T_Bone



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Robbman

04-11-2002 20:02:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: welding mask in reply to T_Bone, 04-11-2002 17:34:32  
Glass gold lens, I haven't seen one of those in a long time. You must weld a lot to prefer one of those. Plastic lens like sellstrom or Jackson are common. Those are even an improvement over the glass filter plates. Guard that one with your life.



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llamas

04-10-2002 09:51:02




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 Re: welding mask in reply to shawn, 04-10-2002 05:57:07  
Here's a good table for welding shade selection, including some infromation on choices.

Link

ANSI Z-whatever-spec welding shades are supposed to be "legibly and permanently" marked with the shade number although it may be hard to see. I would not use any shade which is not marked with the ANSI spec number and the shade number - you just don't know what you're getting. Your eyesight is too high a price to pay to save a couple bucks on a no-name shade.

HTH

llater,

llamas

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Robbman

04-11-2002 17:07:49




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 Re: Re: welding mask in reply to llamas, 04-10-2002 09:51:02  
Right on. There are a lot if imports that cut this "hardened glass" and it is not marked. The price of a quality filter plate is well worth the price.



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Fred OH

04-10-2002 06:34:44




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 Re: welding mask in reply to shawn, 04-10-2002 05:57:07  
Shawn, usually, if you look close, it is stamped on the lense. Sometimes it is on the envelope it came in instead...usually a number ten shade is okay for daytime welding, a shade darker for night time.
You will know if it is too light as you won't be able to see the weld puddle because it's too bright.
Too dark and you can't see anything...
Try putting it in the freezer for a while and then looking for it...this works on tubes that you can't see the id on. L8R....Fred OH

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AL 2

04-11-2002 04:20:33




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 Re: Re: welding mask in reply to Fred OH, 04-10-2002 06:34:44  
For more information on welding glasses and other welding items check out Link



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