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Single stage or 2-stage??

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JJ

04-03-2002 10:35:11




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What are the advantages/disadvantages of the 2 stage compressor over the single stage?




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Dan

04-07-2002 05:36:42




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 Re: single stage or 2-stage?? in reply to JJ, 04-03-2002 10:35:11  
Excellent advice, I have been down that road. I ended up with a good 2-stage and love the thing.



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Rod (NH)

04-03-2002 11:17:48




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 Re: single stage or 2-stage?? in reply to JJ, 04-03-2002 10:35:11  
Hi JJ,

Two stage compressors are more efficient in delivering scfm for the input hp consumed. Typically they have some means of cooling the air between the two stages (called intercoolers) which improves the overall efficiency. The downside is that they are more expensive than the single stage version.

If you compare two otherwise identical compressors, you will find the two stage unit delivers more scfm.

Rod

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Mark Kw

04-03-2002 11:14:24




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 Re: single stage or 2-stage?? in reply to JJ, 04-03-2002 10:35:11  
Volume and pressure are your two separators between single and two stage units. Most single stage units will max out between 100 and 135 psi while most two stage units will not max out until 150 to 200 psi. This really does not mean much unless you require constant pressure above 90 psi such as for filling big truck tires and such. If you require higher volumes of delivered air, you'll want to go with a two stage unit. Most common single stage units are limited to around 2 to 5 cfm of devilery at 90 psi while most two stage units of like Hp are double this amount.

Every unit differs as they are all built differently. Thus, you may have one 3 Hp unit that will deliver only 1.5 cfm at 90 psi while you may have another one of the same size that will deliver 2.5 cfm. This is why you need to shop carefully and understand what it is you are comparing and buying. You need to look specifically at the delivered cfm rating, not the cfm which is taken on the intake side and means nothing toward running tools, sometimes this requires a call to the mfg since most companies choose to mislead you on ratings to make their product look better than it really is.

Two stage units will cost you more since there are more parts to them but there are no disadvantages to them. In general, you will get more delivered air at higher pressures with a 2 stage unit than you will with 1 stage unit. If all you're doing is running an impact gun for a short time once every three months, then spending a good deal of money on a big two stage compressor is foolish. If you're looking at getting a lot of air tools or supplying ones that require a lot of air, then you should look at buying the biggest 2 stage unit you can.

Rule of thumb is to look at the biggest draw tools you will be using, then select a compressor that will deliver at least double that amount. No doubt, you will outgrow a small compressor and end up spending more in the long run. If you buy a compressor that is twice what you need, you have room to grow into it without wasting money.

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Frank

04-03-2002 18:51:43




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 Re: Re: single stage or 2-stage?? in reply to Mark Kw, 04-03-2002 11:14:24  
Good Advice! Get one bigger than you think you will need. My first compressor was a 3/4 hp oilless Ingersoll Rand. Worked good for 12 years but when I started my tractor hobby it was plain I would need something bigger. IR recalled my compressor last month so I replaced it with a 5 hp 60 gal. Eagle.



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Bill

04-07-2002 13:37:43




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 Re: Re: Re: single stage or 2-stage?? in reply to Frank, 04-03-2002 18:51:43  
Ingersoll Rand had a recall? Mines 12 years old... They were'nt recalling that vintage were they? My 5 horse puts out 19.5cfm@ 175psi. Pretty efficient for a 5 horse. Machine has been GOLDEN to me. Not a single problem in all these years. Got it at BJ's Wholesale club. Any info on the recall? I wouldn't trade mine for anything but if it's a safety issue I been in the trades too many years not to respect safety issues.... Thanks!!!

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Frank

04-07-2002 17:30:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: single stage or 2-stage?? in reply to Bill, 04-07-2002 13:37:43  
Bill, I sent you an e-mail about the recall. If anyone has an Ingersoll Rand compressor made between 1983 and 1992 they need to call 1 877 552 2952 and give them the model no. and serial no. to see if their compressor in in the recall program.



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Bill

04-08-2002 09:26:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: single stage or 2-stage?? in reply to Frank, 04-07-2002 17:30:28  
Just visited their website. The Recall notice is on it. Compressors made in the years you referenced up to 3hp/electric & 8hp/gas both with up to 30 gallon tanks. I have 5hp/80gal...Whew that was a scare.... But THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP!!!!! Would encourage everybody with machines in that category to check. They were sold under many names/brands & they list them.....



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