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Lincoln SA200 welder

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J.J.

03-06-2002 22:57:23




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Hi folks going to look at the above mention welder next week. Are there any specific things to watch out for or to check. Engine was reringed and generally gone over (so the story goes) but now there is no spark and the fuel tank bottom is rotten.This welder series any good?Thanks for your time.




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Franz

03-07-2002 17:09:04




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 Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to J.J., 03-06-2002 22:57:23  
I've got one, plus one that the engine went to he11 in for parts. Sweetest arc on the planet.
Magneto might be either 180 degrees out, or just out of adjustment.
Look for all new gaskets on the engine, that's a pretty good indicator if the machine's been rebuilt.
Only shortcoming to that machine it is rough on the rear engine bearing cause there is no front bearing in the generator.
Remember, it's a welder, not a generator to run the house on during power failures.
If you buy it, keep the air intake and exhaust plugged up if you store it outside, those engines rust up internally if they aren't plugged off.

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T_Bone

03-07-2002 16:01:28




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 Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to J.J., 03-06-2002 22:57:23  
Hi JJ,

I've used the older SA models (1970's) and they were great for arc stability. Those were copper wound models tho and I don't know if the newer models are copper wound as Lincoln doesn't spec it. They do spec copper wound on there new Pipeliner tho, so they could not be. There was some arc stability differences of the SA's comparing to a Pipeliner but not much.

Buying a machine not running is a real gamble for any make. It would have to be dirt cheap for me.

Lincoln does list online parts manuals for different models and maybe that would be of help.

You can buy a CV convertor for Mig if you wanted. Cost I have no idea, but I encluded the Lincoln website and it's list retail to give you an idea.

T_Bone

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ramon ciriza

11-30-2003 10:23:21




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 Re: Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to T_Bone, 03-07-2002 16:01:28  
I HAVE USED LINCOLN ARC WELDERS FOR MANY YEARS AND RECENTLY A FRIEND SOLD ME AN SA 200 F162 MODEL THAT HE NO LONGER NEEDED. IT IS IN MINT CONDITION BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REBUILD IT. I HAVE LOOKED IN MANY LINKS FOR A ONLINE PARTS MICROFICHE OR DIAGRAM OF THE WELDER AND HAVE HAD NO SUCCESS IN FINDING IT. COULD YOU DIRECT ME TO ANY LINKS WHERE I CAN FIND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

THANKS, RAMON CIRIZA

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Slim

03-07-2002 15:55:24




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 Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to J.J., 03-06-2002 22:57:23  
Not sure which model you are looking at here, but I have The largest lincoln welder 'bone yard' in northern New Mexico,,,,Would be happy to assist in any way.....I have been repairing these machines for 30 some years now. I have a '46 model,hand crank unit I use quite often around my shop. They are the best DC machine ever built....Thanks Feel free to E-me if you wish



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Ray Williams

03-07-2002 11:21:23




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 Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to J.J., 03-06-2002 22:57:23  
Very good welder. Are used on pipeline construction thousands still in use, really a work horse,older ones bring $2500. Ray.



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Mark Kw

03-07-2002 12:24:38




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 Re: Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to Ray Williams, 03-07-2002 11:21:23  
Ray,

Since I did not read the post properly the first time around, is the "SA200" a different animal than the "SAE200"? If so, what's the difference?

Around here, Northeast PA, you can't hardly give away an SAE model. Ones in excellent running and looking condition barely bring $300 if you're lucky. Got two SAE-300's one with a rebuilt 6 cyl herculese that runs great and I can't get 200 bucks for both of 'em.

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jim

03-06-2002 23:11:33




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 Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to J.J., 03-06-2002 22:57:23  
weld great . power out put is 110 volt dc though. pretty durable machine.



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Mark Kw

03-07-2002 04:33:44




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 Re: Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to jim, 03-06-2002 23:11:33  
Welder was great in it's day. I'd stay clear of it to be completely honest with you. Depends a lot on the area you are in too. Here, parts for these old work horses are hard to come by and if you do find 'em, you'll pay a premium price.

Aside from the DC aux power limits, output is only CC with a low response curve. Great machine for playing around doing DIY'er stick work but far gone from the production scene.

Unless you check parts availability and cost and can get them little of nothing, I'd suggest saving your money and getting a newer machine or a new machine.

Just think, say you give $400 for this one. It them costs you say $200 for a mag to get it spark and $75 for a gas tank to get it fuel. You then find that the auto-idle does not work, there's another 250 bucks. You get these fixed and carb starts leaking, another sum of money... See my point.

Old machines like this are nice to keep you busy if you got nothing else to do. If you're looking to get some welding work done and not working on a welder, you're better off putting your time and money into a new machine.

Deals on used engine drives like the older style Miller Bobcat's and Trailblazer's are to be had quite readily. Base machine new will run you around $2200 or with some options $2800. Used ones with say 500-1000 hours on them can be had for $1200 or less. Just got an 80's model Bobcat last november for $850 with 902 hours on it. Changed the oil, filters and put some good gas in it and repaired the choke cable in 2 hours at a total cost of 38 bucks including the gas. Machine now has 1195 hours on it and is perfect.

Just a little advise to think about.

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Fred OH

03-13-2002 08:52:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Lincoln SA200 welder in reply to Mark Kw, 03-07-2002 04:33:44  
One thing about the older SA-200 Lincoln is they had hard chrome rings and hard liners too. If you baby it, it would start using oil. You had to re-ring it and run it at operating speed for eight hours to seat the rings. I watched a case of this and the welder was one year old and had to be torn down and re-rung, used for bridge welding. L8R.....Fred OH



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