Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Discussion Forum

Bending tubing

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
kev

02-22-2002 18:26:56




Report to Moderator

Whats the best way to bend 5/8 tubing. Its some tight bends, how can i keep it from kinking.. Thanks for the help.




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
LarryG

02-28-2002 10:30:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: bending tubing in reply to kev , 02-22-2002 18:26:56  
Another trick I've seen is - if the tubing isn't too long - fill it full with sand and plug the ends before you make the bend. The sand keeps it from collapsing on itself because the internal volume has to stay the same.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Rod (NH)

02-22-2002 20:48:20




Report to Moderator
 Re: bending tubing in reply to kev , 02-22-2002 18:26:56  
Hi Kev,

The lever or plier style tubing benders that T_Bone mentions work very, very nicely. I am assuming you are talking 5/8" OD hard copper tubing as used in the plumbing trades. Ridgid is a prominent manufacturer to this industry. Their lever style bender for this tubing bends to a 3" centerline radius for this size. The lever style benders bend only one tubing size...and be prepared to spend some $$$ for this animal! 1988 price was $118.00. I have a commercial bender for this size tubing that is not the lever style but works on the same principle by another manufacturer. The bend radius for mine is also 3".

The spring style benders are really only for soft copper tubing...the kind that comes in rolls, not straight lengths. I have never had much luck with them for any type of bends beyond about 45 deg.

If you need to go with something sharper than a 3" radius, or don't want to spent a lot, I recommend the fabricated elbows as T_Bone suggests.

Rod

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
kev

02-23-2002 12:29:15




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to Rod (NH), 02-22-2002 20:48:20  
its thin wall tubing it comes in a roll



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Rod (NH)

02-23-2002 13:53:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to kev, 02-23-2002 12:29:15  
third party image

Ah, that opens up the possibility of the spring type bender mentioned before. That is what these things are made for...soft copper tubing. Certainly not as good as the lever style but the price is right...only a few dollars each. I don’t use mine any more simply because I have the lever style. The problem I have had in the past with the spring type is trying to bend too much of an angle for a fairly tight radius. The tube doesn’t kink but it does go slightly oval...enough to bind against the ID of the spring and make it hard to remove. If you keep to fairly long radius bends, especially for the larger angles (say over 45 deg) these should work just fine for you. The photo shows one end of a spring type bender. This one happens to be for 1/2" OD soft copper and is about a foot long overall. The bell shaped end is to facilitate slipping over the tube and to provide a surface for your hand to come up against in sliding it along the tube. They are available at any plumbing supply outlet. Good hardware stores or even places like Home Depot should also carry them especially in the smaller sizes. Ridgid makes ‘em for up to 7/8" OD.

Rod

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
FRED

02-23-2002 16:30:07




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to Rod (NH), 02-23-2002 13:53:18  
I just bought a 5/8 lever bender at Harbor tool for 5.99+ tax. Not the best tool I own. After deburing it and polishing of the rough it made good bends with some practice. FRED



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Rod (NH)

02-23-2002 17:13:48




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to FRED, 02-23-2002 16:30:07  
Hi Fred,

I have never been a fan of Harbor Freight...however, if the product works fairly well, I certainly can't complain. The price can't be beat, that's for sure. Another option for Kev to consider. Thanks for bringing it up.

Here's the link to their lever bender for 5/8". I am not sure it's the same one that you mention though since the price is not the same.

Rod

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
T_Bone

02-22-2002 19:39:23




Report to Moderator
 Re: bending tubing in reply to kev , 02-22-2002 18:26:56  
Hi Kev,
I've seen two types of tubing benders. One is a spring that slips over the Cu, long radius and easy to kink the tube.
The other one is like a pliar and you slip the Cu tube between the handles and it draws the tubing 90 or other degree. Very tight 90 and you very seldom kink the tube.

The tighest tube bender 90 would be 4 times the pipe diameter would equal radius.

You can also buy preformed 5/8" Cu 90's and sweat the joints and that would be the smallest 90 possible but also has the greatest CV(resistance) rating.

T_Bone

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Jones

02-22-2002 19:59:49




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to T_Bone, 02-22-2002 19:39:23  
Have you ever tried putting a spring Inside the tube,then bending? The spring supports the walls so there is no collapse even on a bend tighter than 90*,then it slips right out.Presto!I've done this alot making lines on airplanes.Hope this helps,BillJ



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Rod (NH)

02-22-2002 20:58:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to Bill Jones, 02-22-2002 19:59:49  
Hi Bill,

The only commercial type spring benders I have seen are those sized to go over the OD of the tubing, at least those common to the plumbing trades. Were the springs you used specially sized or something to go in the ID and without the typical bell on one end? You must be limited to bends only near the end of tubing aren't you...otherwise how would you get the spring out, say from a 90 deg bend in the middle of a relatively long length of tube?

Rod

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Jones

02-23-2002 18:10:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to Rod (NH), 02-22-2002 20:58:42  
The springs were the same size as the Inside diameter of the tubing.They are about 2 feet long-different sizes for different diameter.The springs themselves are a very flexible type,not stiff at all.I was told they don't need to be heavy,just flexible. I first saw them on the TNN tv show w/ the 2 guys that work on hot rods..Horsepower TV? Anyway,they show new products and the springs were what they used to make new stainles steel brake lines,so I tried it at work and it made a bend with NO wrinkles,kinks,or flats.I retired and gave the set to my brother,but you can check w/an auto parts store to see if they carry them in the size needed.Outside spring benders will expand as they are bending, leaving room for the tube to expand or kink and collapse, the inside spring will not expand(no room) and it will twist itself tighter pushing against the wall of the tube keeping it from collapsing.They are easy to remove,just slide them out.The tubes I bent were usually multiple bends required to absorb vibration,expansion, contraction etc.With a small length,the springs just stuck out the ends.Sorry this is so long,I get carried away!! :^) BillJ

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Rod (NH)

02-23-2002 21:05:49




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to Bill Jones, 02-23-2002 18:10:32  
Boy Bill, you really got my interest up here. I had never heard of internal tube bending springs before. I want to try some on auto brake lines. As you mention, they would excel here over the lever style benders due to the multiple bends, sometimes best done freehand. I will check down to NAPA to see if they can get 'em. Thanks for bringing such a tool up.

Rod



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
T_Bone

02-24-2002 10:01:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to Rod (NH), 02-23-2002 21:05:49  
Hi Bill,

I never heard of them either. Sounds like something to try. Thanks!

How small of tubing size do they come in?
That gave me an idea of what to use my used wire feeder liners for!

T_Bone



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill Jones

02-24-2002 14:46:29




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bending tubing in reply to T_Bone, 02-24-2002 10:01:33  
Hello,It seems to me that the smallest they fit was 3/8 or 1/4 O.D. The bad thing is,I just called my brother,about them and he has no idea where he put them!! I called to see if he could tell me the name of the place my dad got them from.I have seen long springs that go on screen doors that were about the same thing,only they were one size-about 3/8 or 1/2 maybe? If it was the right size it would work great.Sometimes we would spray WD-40 in the tube so the spring would slide out easier.With a spring and a bending tool,you could make bends all day,fast and no rejects.I'll sure try to locate the box with the makers name on it and pass it along ASAP.BillJ

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy