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John VT

03-17-2000 13:09:43

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Could somebody out there explain fish plate. A article I was reading mentioned welding 1/8" fish plate to stenghten a frame. Also, is there a site on the internet for general welding info? Thanks in advance. John.

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Jim in N M

03-18-2000 10:48:32

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Re: Fish plate in reply to John VT, 03-17-2000 13:09:43

I'm sure no expert on "Fishplating" but what I've been told is you only weld on the plate horizontle and never weld vertical as that will just weaken and cause failure at that (vertical) point.thats the way I've always done it and never had a failure, PERIOD.

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bbott

03-18-2000 18:26:06

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Re: Re: Fish plate in reply to Jim in N M , 03-18-2000 10:48:32

Hi Jim... never heard the part about the
'no vertical' weld.. but I can see the idea that you'd create a stress point where the fish plate ended...

I've seen quite a few fish plates with the ends cut in a 'diamond' shape.. perhaps that's to avoid the concentration of stress in a single vertical plane where the fish plate ends and provide a flex that matches the base material.....

The plates cut in that shape (diamond) were most always welded all the way around the perimeter.

(I thought they got their name from the diamond ...kinda like a fish..)

I got the brakes working on the backhoe... added lots of new hyd fluid (it was low) and bled the brakes again... pedal came up firm ! I think there was some crud in a passage somewhere.

Did you ever find the narrow bucket you were looking for ?

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Jim in N M

03-18-2000 18:45:00

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Re: Re: Re: Fish plate in reply to bbott, 03-18-2000 18:26:06

Hey bbot----never did find a used bucket so I had to buy a new one,got the best price from Tennessee Buckets. glad to hear you got the brakes fixed,Its got to make you a lot happier knowing you can stop. Jim

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Wardner

03-17-2000 18:54:46

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Re: Fish plate in reply to John VT, 03-17-2000 13:09:43

I believe the correct term is "flitch plate" but it has been corrupted to fish plate. I'll let Steve from US Alloys comment on welding frame steel, but I think drilling and bolting would be better. 1/8 steel seems kinda light. They are usually 1/4 or 3/8 inch. They run between the back hanger of the front spring and the front hanger of the rear spring. They can be as wide or several inches wider than the frame depth.

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Spot strength helper

03-17-2000 14:29:30

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Re: Fish plate in reply to John VT, 03-17-2000 13:09:43

John- Snoop around for posts by "Steve at US Alloy" and shoot your questions direct to him if need be. My opinion is that this board is about as good as it gits! Man, we are all doing tremendous learning from each other right here.

A direct answer for your question. Give your browser's address line--

dogpile.com

Next, give the search line welding, or whatever key word is on your mind. You can read 'till your eyes bleed.

See 'ya in a week or three! IHank

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