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Dave

02-08-2002 19:11:26




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Anyone have any experience with Devilbiss generators? Found the 10 hp B&S,5000 watt model,with low oil shutdown,for $399,new.Only downside I see is that its only 20 amp.But,I plan on only using it occasionally,for mostly low draw usage.Small and light enough.Beats dragging out my old monster. Thanks, Dave




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G Taylor

02-12-2002 11:39:43




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 Re: portable generators in reply to Dave, 02-08-2002 19:11:26  
The cheapest of portable alternators do not have cast iron cylinders, ball,needle or roller bearings in the generator or some sort of solid state voltage regulation.Aluminium windings are bad news. Consider the generator or any delicate electronic equipment connected disposable. A later model Coleman has a adjustable volatage control hidden between the cooling air entry fins on the generator. It & the engine rpm had to be adjusted to get 132V & 63 to 66 cycles at no load. It's fine for the occassional use machine & won't wreck anything connected. If you just have to have a premium gas unit a Honda,SuzukiYamaha etc also has a better "active" electronic voltage control for improved regulation. Link is a good place to look. Rather than a premium gasoline generator my cousin has great success for the same $ with a Yanmar DIESEL 3500 watt on his highway tractor. Runs for pennies an hour to energize the block & cab heater along with the battery charger while parked during winter trips. Runs the airconditioner,fridge,lights etc in the summer when parked. Saves fuel & wearing out the main engine. Just push the compresison relief & pull to start. The larger ones have electric start as well. Avalable in various sizes & great service from Central Maine Diesel. They are in www.e-bay.com under Yanmar and generator. There are Yanmars with over 10,000 hrs still in use at Toronto International Airport. They power temporary run way closure lights during service. The only thing that messes them up is dirty fuel, no oil changes or if run lightly loaded/no load in cold weather for extended periods. A change of oil & a hour or two at full load will clean out them out again.

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Dave

02-12-2002 16:55:39




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 Re: Re: portable generators in reply to G Taylor , 02-12-2002 11:39:43  
The Briggs does have a cast iron liner,and the alternator has ball bearings.I know it's not great,but it's a lot for the $,and should serve my needs around here.Still plan to get a better one for work.Thanks again,Dave



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Dave

02-11-2002 11:34:09




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 Re: portable generators in reply to Dave, 02-08-2002 19:11:26  
This one has a compression release.Will probably pick it up when I get back in town.Looking at a 11hp Honda for my "work" generator.Best price I've found is over $900.Thanks to all for your help, Dave



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JerryU

02-11-2002 10:39:43




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 Re: portable generators in reply to Dave, 02-08-2002 19:11:26  
Sounds like a good deal. I have a Campbell Hausfeld with an 8 hp briggs-sounds like the same engine. Works great--only two things-be prepared to pull. These things take a bit of heft to turn over. Secondly, unless this one is different, they are fairly noisey. I tried a different muffler, which didn't help and vibration shook off. Back to the original.

For occasional use I would not hesitate. Good price. For a long run or quieter operation, get one with a Honda engine, but open your billfold $$$$.

JU

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OldsterGA

02-09-2002 13:34:50




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 Re: portable generators in reply to Dave, 02-08-2002 19:11:26  
I have a 5000/6250 Devilbiss and have been very happy with it. I only use it when the power goes down for a while but run it every other month to keep it magnetically correct. I live in the north Georgia Mountains so an ice storm or bad snow storm can raise havoc with the power lines. It has been good and it has a Tecumsah engine. Can't remember exactly what I paid for it but it was over $400.00 I'm quite sure.

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Bob - KS

02-09-2002 05:41:55




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 Re: portable generators in reply to Dave, 02-08-2002 19:11:26  
I have a GT5250 that I picked up at a garage sale this summer. They were selling it cheap because they couldn't get it to start or run in the spring when they wanted it to. I have had to work with it a bit but I think it's sole problem was the (guessing 1999 y2k) gas that was in it. Smelled and looked like spar varnish. After flushing that stuff out it ran fairly well, and it just got me through a 5 day power outage and kept the freezers, fridge, and stock tank heaters going. It still surges a little under light load but the guys in stationary engines group gave me a couple more places to look for varnish to fix that. One thing I noticed - I have some 'smart' outside lights that are sensitive to wave form and it ran those with no problem. An inverter drives those lights into insanity. The ceiling fans that buzz and rattle on inverter power were perfectly quiet on this generator. The tv's were happy with it's power output too. This one has a techumseh engine but overall seems well built and the generator side puts out at least what it's rated for and no 'noise' picked up in the radio's or tv's. It has performed well for me given the junk that's been in the fuel system.

Bob

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Butch in Ks

02-11-2002 18:06:45




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 Re: Re: portable generators in reply to Bob - KS, 02-09-2002 05:41:55  
Sounds like bob lives in the same part of Kansas I do. Have Coleman 10 Techumseh 5000watt the only trouble had was carb iceing call the 800 number told me what to do solved problem



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Ray

02-09-2002 04:00:23




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 Re: portable generators in reply to Dave, 02-08-2002 19:11:26  
Dave
I have one and its been no problem at all. It has only about 50 hours of run time on it, but even with months of storage in between uses it starts on the 2nd pull. Its always done everything I have needed including running a commercial freezer for 2 days. The price of 399.00 is about 50.00 cheaper than I paid 2 years ago.



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Tim B

02-08-2002 21:51:44




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 Re: portable generators in reply to Dave, 02-08-2002 19:11:26  
Dave,

Watts = amps X Volts, so is this generator strictly 230 volts? (5000w/230v = 20 amps), If so is this what you want? Otherwise, it should give you about 40 amps when drawing 120 volts. In anycase this is all any 5000 watt generator is going to give you.

I don't have any experience with Deilbiss, but they are a well known name, and the price seems right. Good luck.



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Farmer/Paul

02-09-2002 05:09:18




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 Re: Re: portable generators in reply to Tim B, 02-08-2002 21:51:44  
Sounds to be the same unit as my coleman powermate, 10 HP Briggs, 5000watts continuous, 6250 watts surge. They are inexpensive mine was about $800.00 Canadian or about 400US$. The coleman is not a rebuildable unit though once it goes all you have is the motor.



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RayP(MI)

02-10-2002 12:53:39




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 Re: Re: Re: portable generators in reply to Farmer/Paul, 02-09-2002 05:09:18  
I have the little brother, Coleman 8hp Briggs, 4000 watt. Has done well by me, including running our place for a week of no power - water, lights, 2 freezers, 2 refigerators, (not all at once, however.) Let's face it, unless you're going to use it for contracting, or something, you probably won't wear it out in a lifetime, using it for intermittent duty. cost me less than $360 at K-mart on a sale. (Think someone posted the price of the next cheaper model!)

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