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keno henderson

02-02-2002 18:11:49




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I need ideas on a motor pump combo,(gas or electric)to pull motor oil over the top of a 1000 gall.tank.Engines motors and pumps I
have but I don't know the best way to go.I
built a oil heater for my junk yard shop. Some of the shops are saving oil for me but I need to
haul it to my shop?.any help is appreciated.

hazfun7




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Ray,IN

02-06-2002 21:40:11




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 Re: motor oil pump in reply to keno henderson, 02-02-2002 18:11:49  
hey Keno, just got a new harbor freight catalog no. 137e; page 39 has just what you are asking about. It has a air motor, will pump grease and oils $300 but flow capacity is low, 2.5lbs grease or 9gpm oil.



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Keno Henderson

02-07-2002 18:46:58




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 Re: Re: motor oil pump in reply to Ray,IN, 02-06-2002 21:40:11  
THANKS REY.(AND EVERYONE)I will try the air
pump.This response is awsome thanks.

hazfun7



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Franz

02-02-2002 22:17:54




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 Re: motor oil pump in reply to keno henderson, 02-02-2002 18:11:49  
I built a tank setup for hauling waste oil, out of an old propane tank. The biggest problem with moving used motor oil is that you need a large diameter hose, the stuff gets as thick as mayonase when it's cold.
I use a vacumm pump to fill the transport tank from the collection tank, and compressed air to load the oil from the transport tank to the shop tank.
Basicly, the setup is a mineature septic tank cleaning rig.

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Ray,IN

02-02-2002 22:05:56




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 Re: motor oil pump in reply to keno henderson, 02-02-2002 18:11:49  
A diaphram pump will pump most anything that will flow through a pipe/hose, and is very durable. The drawbacks are: it is air pressure operated and thus more energy inefficient than electric pumps, and the initial cost is between $800 and $1,500 for the least expensive models. I used this style pump for most applications in the plating room and chemical treatment area at work and the dependability was excellent. Another option is the rotary vane pumps that use a neophrene vane in a bronze housing, these cost around $350, they're not as durable, won't pull as much head, and you must replace the neophrene impeller ocassionally ($50). A decision you must make prior to using it, is the EPA rules and the 1,000 gal tank. Storing that quanity of used motor oil requires compliance with above ground storage tank regulations and obtaining a permit. Your state environmental management office will help explain all the rules and proceedures.

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Richard

02-03-2002 05:57:21




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 Re: Re: motor oil pump in reply to Ray,IN, 02-02-2002 22:05:56  
Like I mentioned before, we service lots of big engines with lots of oil. We buy double headed diaphram pumps that have 1" inlet and outlets, pump around 50 gallons per minute (advertised 50 but they actually do around 25-30 gpm on cold oil). They work real well and We buy them new around $350.00. Gear pumps, unless really large do not move much volume.

The "best" pump we ever used is called an Orfendoerfer Pump (spelling?). It's a positive displacement pump, has a metal screw as the drive, and a large rubber sleeve over the screw. This pump is fast, doesn't stop up when trash gets in it, and doesn't require alot of HP. We used to buy them from Graingers. We don't use them now because we have air compressors on all the service trucks and it's 1 less engine to mess with.


Used Engine oil is not considered a hazardous material, until it is spilled (doesn't that make sense?). I would have to look it up again, however several years ago 110 gallons was the limit on hauling used oil without permits, manifest, and other regulatory stuff. They may have reduced it since then. Our guys used to haul used oil back to large storage tanks at our shop after they did a service however rules and regulations have become so strict and change everytime you turn around, and then we had the containment areas built, then the rainwater runoff inspections, quarterly core samples, and so on, so now we "pay" to have our used oil picked up and hauled off at a rate of 50 cents per gallon.
Our place is spotless, no oil on the ground, and well maintained and the EPA stays on our *ss, however our industrial neighbors' lot is unbearable, nasty, and not safe at all and nobody hounds them?

Being an individual, the EPA would probably never know how much oil you kept on your place, "however" Most places have to document who hauled off what, how much, and where did it go on a manifest. It's called Cradle to Grave, if they aren't doing it, then they are not following the guidelines.

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Ray,IN

02-03-2002 16:06:52




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 Re: Re: Re: motor oil pump in reply to Richard, 02-03-2002 05:57:21  
Richard it sounds like we were both in environmental compliance and hazardous waste storage, and transportation. I retired from the worlds 2nd largest electrical manufacturer as a environmental manager and enjoyed the field greatly. Interaction with EPA and state agencies was mostly political, if I demonstrated a desire to cooperate and kept abreast of the rules they usually left our plant alone.

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