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OOPs - I have rust on precision engine surfaces

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Jason Mortzheim

01-08-2006 19:22:54




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I screwed up. I have a Farmall M engine block that was sent to the shop for $600 of work (it was not pretty before). When it was returned I installed the crank with new bearings, new pistons with rings in the new sleeves the shop installed.

Then we moved and the block was hauled to my new location, placed in the barn under cover and not touched for two months as I helped my wife get the house in order.

Now I have light surface rust on the sleeves and the top of the block. I used prelube and coated everything with 90 weight gear oil but obviously that was not the trick to store it.

First question, what do I use to get the rust off? If I use Emory cloth, steel wool or other light medium there will be filings, etc. in places that are not the best as the rings and bearings are still in. Or does it have to be re-torn apart? I am also thinking about Picklex as well but not sure how that would react with the gaskets or oil later on?

Secondly, how do I keep the rust from returning until I can get the pieces painted and start reassembly? Picklex is obvious but same concerns as above. My only thought is grease as the 90 oil did not work.

Thanks for any advice.

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HoosierDave

01-11-2006 13:46:57




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 Re: OOPs - I have rust on precision engine surface in reply to Jason Mortzheim, 01-08-2006 19:22:54  
I'd try genuine scotchbrite and WD-40. I say genuine because we use alot at work and the cheap stuff does not hold up. I've used it at work and home with success on steel parts that have light surface rust. The scotchbrite removes the main rust and the WD helps to lubricate and clean the scotchbrite, plus it's plastic, so any residue that accidently slips by will not kill parts.

IMO..depends on how "deep" the rust is on the surface. In a bore...I wouldn't worry too much about it, as long as the "cratering" is shallow. Cleanliness is the most important part...try and keep the removed rust off the piston/bore gap.

As a matter of fact, I've got a car block at home with exactly the same dilemma. Machined, then moved and the storage bag got ripped during the move without my knowing. :(

HoosierDave

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Chris Pritchard

01-11-2006 11:39:18




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 Re: OOPs - I have rust on precision engine surface in reply to Jason Mortzheim, 01-08-2006 19:22:54  
The was a industrial-style inhibitor that coated surfaces with a hard gel that was commonly used to prevent rust. I can't think of the name. I remember Dad buying some machine tools that came over covered with the stuff. Varsol took it off nicely.



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van robinson

01-09-2006 02:57:24




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 Re: OOPs - I have rust on precision engine surface in reply to Jason Mortzheim, 01-08-2006 19:22:54  
I have used grease on engine parts to prevent rust, but it can be hell to get all of the grease off. I have several Mustang engine parts, i.e. camshafts, crankshafts, etc. that have been coated with regular alemite grease for 20 years and have not rusted one bit.



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old

01-08-2006 20:45:40




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 Re: OOPs - I have rust on precision engine surface in reply to Jason Mortzheim, 01-08-2006 19:22:54  
If its just a very light rust, fill the cylinders with tranny fluid, let it sit a day or so then turn it over and wipe it out. I almost bet the rust will be gone and you can then get it put back in to the tractor.



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KEB

01-08-2006 20:31:43




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 Re: OOPs - I have rust on precision engine surface in reply to Jason Mortzheim, 01-08-2006 19:22:54  
A cylinder hone will take the rust off without damaging the sleeves, but you'll have to tear the engine down to use one. I have used fine emory cloth and oil to remove rust resulting from a head gasket leaking coolant into a cylinder. Coating the emory cloth with oil will help contain any abrasive that may get loose. Seemed to work OK, but I didn't keep the car very long after that, so don't know about potential long-term effects.

Keeping the engine as dry as possible will help keep the rust from progressing. I'd suggest wrapping it tightly in heavy plastic with the seams taped to make it airtight. Put some dessicant (silica gel) inside the wrapping to absorb any moisture. I believe you can get silica gel at craft stores - its used for drying flowers.

Keith

PS - there's always cosmoline, although I have no idea where to get it...

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lumpy

01-08-2006 20:03:18




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 Re: OOPs - I have rust on precision engine surface in reply to Jason Mortzheim, 01-08-2006 19:22:54  
You will have to pull it apart. If im going to store a engine like that, I take methanol or lacquer thinner and swab down everything exposed. Then dry it, then motorcycle chain lube the bare metal.



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