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curtis

06-15-2004 19:44:37




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im restoring my 53 farmall super m. tractor is in great shape. but got water in the engine and is now very stuck. i have been working on that for about 2 months now. got 1 and a half pisons out. i am totally re doing the head, where can i get this done at? napa? and i dont want to split the tractor so i need someplace to pull the sleeves and put new sleeves in. where do i do this? im getting a new exhaust manifold and rebuilding the carb and possibly the generator and starter. this is my first restoration so i was wondering how much will this cost and does it sound like im on the right track? thanks alot!

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Eric

06-18-2004 16:26:46




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 Re: lots of restoration questions! in reply to curtis, 06-15-2004 19:44:37  
i restored my F-20 and the motor was stuck after being real desperate i took a blacksmith hammer and a 2 ft steel rod and went under up from the bottom of the piston and hit the bolt that holds the rist pin in it runs now but i had to buy a used piston make sure you check it over well for cracks then when there all out get a sleeve puller because i just lifted the front end of my tractor off the ground trying to jack on it hope the info helps Eric

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JMS/MN

06-16-2004 16:43:46




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 Re: lots of restoration questions! in reply to curtis, 06-15-2004 19:44:37  
If you got water in the engine through the exhaust system, and it is only in the cylinders, it will not affect the crank or bearings. If it was coolant, going into the crankcase, it would affect those bearings, but not likely to seize the pistons in the cylinders. You can use things like turpentine, PB Blaster, diesel fuel, other penetrating products, but a well-seized engine usually needs a hydraulic jack to push the pistons, or use a sleeve puller and take the sleeve/piston to a shop to have the piston pushed out. If the s/p is worn beyond specs, replace the entire unit. Otherwise, just rings and 0-rings are ok. You don't know that until you get the parts out. NAPA does have machine shop service available, but also check other sources- neighbors, etc. for where they get work done. Locally, turning a crank for undersize bearings is 100, OH gasket set 140, plane head and grind valves 100, main bearings for AC WD- 150, rod bearings 75, new s/p about 100 per hole. Oil pump, water pump, clutch, throwout brg, valves, camshaft, etc.- just adds more $.

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JMS/MN

06-16-2004 16:47:56




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 Re: Re: lots of restoration questions! in reply to JMS/MN, 06-16-2004 16:43:46  
Disregard the notion of using a sleeve puller with the piston in the sleeve. Meant to say- push the sleeve and piston up from below with the jack, and take it to a shop to push the two apart.



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Ron

06-16-2004 02:32:43




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 Re: lots of restoration questions! in reply to curtis, 06-15-2004 19:44:37  
To be honest, no.

2 months to get one and half pistons out?

When you get water in an engine, any engine, the bearings, mains and rod, are junk. Depending upon how long the engine was run that way, the crank may be junk too.

The right way to do this is to split the tractor and take the engine to a machinist who has the tools and the knowledge to get it in proper working order. He can do the head work for you too.

Yes, some NAPA stores might be able to help but if you ask other tractor or auto enthusiasts in your area who the best engine rebuilding machine shops are you will likley get a better job.

To figure the cost of restoration, make a high guess and then multiply that times 10. Usually pretty close.

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