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Using ether for cold starts

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roro

02-06-2003 19:33:36




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Greetings,
I tried posting a message yesterday, but I'm not sure if I succeeded, since I can't find it on the website.Is my inexperience showing?
Anyhow, take two!
My IH B-414 Diesel (1969) glow plug system has failed recently. Being unable to fix it due to recent carpal tunnel surgery, I am using a aerosol can of ether( "Quick Start") for cold starting.After having warmed-up the engine overnight with an in-line electric coolant heater, I give a small shot of ether into the air cleaner and crank it over. The unit starts up easily on the first try, even at -20c.
My main concern is excessive engine wear during cold starts due to the ether. I am always careful not to inject much ether since I am aware of its volatility.
Could anyone enlighten me on this subject.
Thank you.

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Jim N.

02-09-2003 19:30:10




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 Re: using ether for cold starts in reply to roro, 02-06-2003 19:33:36  
A few years ago I overhauled an engine that I knew had been started with large amounts of ether several times so I had the rods checked just to be sure they were ok and the machinist found they were bent a little. The machine shop could straighten them, but it is an example of what overuse of ether can do. By overuse I mean it was kicking back on the starter and sounded like a sledge hammer was pounding inside of when it when it did start. A little bit probably won't hurt but I have heard it can dry the cylinder walls.

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Farmer Gene (WI)

02-09-2003 02:49:08




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 Re: using ether for cold starts in reply to roro, 02-06-2003 19:33:36  
I hate using ether because of the high pressures it developes, try heating the intake manifold up with a propane torch, works for me.



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JMS/MN

02-08-2003 09:52:49




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 Re: using ether for cold starts in reply to roro, 02-06-2003 19:33:36  
Since you have the engine plugged in ahead of time, try starting it without ether. With five seconds of cranking, you should be able to guess if it's too cold to start without help. Then squirt some ether in- better while cranking than before cranking. Don't use a continuous spray if doing it while cranking. With glow plugs or a manifold heater, don't ever use ether if the other has just been used. You can blow them up. Couldn't resist this one: it's an ether/or situation!

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Fred Kobs

02-06-2003 21:21:13




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 Re: using ether for cold starts in reply to roro, 02-06-2003 19:33:36  
Normally, I detest the use of ether in any engine, but looks like someone out there does know how to use it. If you are letting the heater do it's job for that long, I would guess the motor is proably warmer now than on a nice spring morn.. Hence no more inital wear than norm, as long as you don't have to crank for very long to draw in the ether should be OK. The electric bill is proably more than the parts to fix it though. Got to be somebody that you could pour a couple beers in and con them into helping?? When you get her fixed, don't forget to throw the ether away, makes a nasty mess when it hits hot glow plugs. Good luck, Fred

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roro

02-07-2003 09:48:17




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 Re: Re: using ether for cold starts in reply to Fred Kobs, 02-06-2003 21:21:13  
Mr. Kobs,
Thank you for the advice. I plan on fixing the glow plug system as soon as my health will permit.



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