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Rust removal on rims

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Super 55

12-08-2002 12:41:36




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I am still in the process of restoring a Super 55 (life long project). I had the tires removed yesterday so I could clean up the rims and paint them. Not to much damage on the rims. One of them looks like it was leaking calcium around the tube stem. The stem hole is caroded and enlarged. I have to cut away that area and put in a new piece. My question is the best way to remove the surface rust on the rest of the wheel. I am wire brushing with a grinder and it is cleaning up really well. Would it be better to have them sand blasted? Also, a fellow on the Tractor Tales had a posting one time where he painted the inside of the rims with hammertite. Seems like a good idea. Any comments? Any help will be appreciated.

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D13

12-24-2002 06:01:28




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 Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to Super 55, 12-08-2002 12:41:36  
did you try electolysis? Get what you can off, then use elextrolysis on the rim. If your ground isn't frozen you can dig a pit, line it with plastic, and do it there. Put the sacrificial metal in the middle and be patient, a rim is big and it will take a while. As soon as it is done prime an paint.



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Chris

12-10-2002 03:57:17




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 Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to Super 55, 12-08-2002 12:41:36  
The local truck tire shop (Les Schwaub Tires) sandblasted and powdwer coated my rear rims for $35 each! Look great! I had to weld in a patch like you are going to. That they wouldn't do. Just used a washer and tigged it on. Peened it to match the contour and ground it smooth. Can't hardly see where it was after the powder coating.



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Hal/WA

12-12-2002 23:36:41




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 Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to Chris, 12-10-2002 03:57:17  
That was a fantastic bargain. Where are you located?



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Chris

12-14-2002 13:16:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to Hal/WA, 12-12-2002 23:36:41  
Near Seattle. But the rims were shipped to Redmond ,OR by Les Schwab. Shipping included. I did buy a pair of tires in the deal as well but got a good price on them too!



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CNKS

12-08-2002 14:13:58




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 Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to Super 55, 12-08-2002 12:41:36  
If you are happy with the job your wire brush is doing, why pay someone to sandblast them? Sandblasting will get more of the rust, however. Otherwise, use a rust converter before you prime and paint.



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Super 55

12-08-2002 19:10:42




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 Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to CNKS, 12-08-2002 14:13:58  
The wire brush did a good job. The worse rim had some scaling rust that I knocked off with a pneumatic chisel, however it cleaned up pretty good. I will need to weld a new plate where the stem comes through the rim. The inside of that rim is orange peeled from the pitting. Would that need to be filled or can I just leave it with painting it?



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CNKS

12-09-2002 18:09:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to Super 55, 12-08-2002 19:10:42  
In my opinion, inside or out, rust converter, prime and paint. Any filler is for appearance only, inside doesn't matter unless it is very rough. There are some body products that will do as good a job at filling and strength as, say, JB Weld, but you would have to ask someone who knows, as I haven't used any of them. I don't think it matters what the inside looks like as long as the strength is still there and you stop the rust.

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jake

12-09-2002 09:08:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to Super 55, 12-08-2002 19:10:42  
I had the same problem on my 55's power-adjust rims, took the rims and centers to a local sandblaster. 1 rim had corrosion damage requiring sheet metal patches brazed and valve stem hole metal built up with the rod. All patches were smoothed with abrasive disc and the pitting was covered with Bondo and reground to bare metal. Primer then several coats of paint. Outside is great however the inside patches a little lumpy but smooth, nothing to hurt the tube and better than $250 for the new rim. The rust converter sound good for the inside that salt gets down deep in the pits. Good luck Jake

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jake

12-10-2002 09:44:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to jake, 12-09-2002 09:08:14  
If I go through all the trouble of getting the rust removed patched up etc it's going to look good when the paint goes on. Just the way I do things.



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CNKS

12-10-2002 18:24:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to jake, 12-10-2002 09:44:01  
I do too, but I don't worry much about the inside of a rim, as long as the rust is stopped.



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CNKS

12-10-2002 18:22:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to jake, 12-10-2002 09:44:01  
I do too, but I don't worry much about the inside of a rim, as long as the rust is stopped.



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Dave Maddux

12-12-2002 14:41:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to CNKS, 12-10-2002 18:22:50  
I have restored a few tractors and I have always sandblasted my rear rims inside and out. Then I epoxy prime and finish coat the inside I try to get as good job inside as out. I need to have it last through my great grand kids. I understand that some people might not have this in there budget, or have access to the sand blasting, but for me I want do the best I know how, years from now we might not be able to find these rims. It is very hard to stop rust so 99% elimination is the best go. Dave

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CNKS

12-13-2002 13:28:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rust removal on rims in reply to Dave Maddux, 12-12-2002 14:41:11  
I have no argument with that. I just had 2 rims sandblasted that had moderate pitting inside. I treated with rust converter, epoxy primed and painted just like the outside. In this case a wire brush would not have removed the rust. Whether the converter alone would have stopped it, I don't know.



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