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Larry Flynt

11-26-2006 08:45:21




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Have a 3 cylinder perkins diesel engine in my tractor which refuses to start. Does anyone know if there is a way to check the injector timing, or change the injector timing, without opening up the engine?




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Keevin

11-26-2006 18:46:01




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 Re: Perkins diesel in reply to Larry Flynt, 11-26-2006 08:45:21  
The best I can tell is only if someone put a TDC mark on your crank pulley then go 24 deg. back from there,{I think the timing mark for crank pulley is about 2:45 }, then take your inspection plate off your injector pump and see if there is an E lined up with the square end of the snapring. I don't know how you will know if your on the number one cylinder , but if you see the E where it's suppose to be and the mark on your pulley 24 deg. BTDC ,I would figure that it is in time. If this is not right someone please set me and him straight. Thanks

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Keevin

11-26-2006 17:08:30




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 Re: Perkins diesel in reply to Larry Flynt, 11-26-2006 08:45:21  
The check valves in my lift {fuel} pump, on mine came out of there holes and made mine die.



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ken in texas

11-26-2006 15:21:47




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 Re: Perkins diesel in reply to Larry Flynt, 11-26-2006 08:45:21  
Have you tried using starting fluid in the intake sparingly. if it fires your fuel lines may need to be bled to remove the air you get when it has been run completely out of fuel.Good luck.



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135 Fan

11-26-2006 11:11:54




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 Re: Perkins diesel in reply to Larry Flynt, 11-26-2006 08:45:21  
Are you sure it isn't air locked? If it ran before the timing shouldn't have changed. Just a thought. Dave



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Rexalot

11-27-2006 05:29:25




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 Re: Perkins diesel in reply to 135 Fan, 11-26-2006 11:11:54  
If it was running and refuses to start now, what happened prior? Run out of fuel? Has it been sitting for a long period of time, maybe has stuck rings (low compression)?

I agree typically it shouldn"t have jumped time, something would have had to break and you would"ve known that the last time you used it, short of finding the lock bolt for the injector pump loose.

Try the ether trick... if you choose to try that DO NOT USE THE GLOWPLUGS!

Thats another thing, is it cold enough where your at where you would need them? Do you get "fuel" smoke during cranking?

Good luck.

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Larry Flynt

12-03-2006 09:50:10




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 Re: Perkins diesel in reply to Rexalot, 11-27-2006 05:29:25  
It seems that one cylinder fires during cranking but not others. Have had injectors and glow plugs checked. Was running before stopping about 30 days ago. Have removed injectors while cranking and they appear fine so know injector pump is working. Am attempting to find adapter to screw into injector hole to check compression but have not been able to find one yet. Nearest dealer is 100 miles away and hat at this time to haul it.

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Keevin

12-04-2006 07:36:34




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 Re: Perkins diesel in reply to Larry Flynt, 12-03-2006 09:50:10  
Was it setting out in the rain. It's been raining like crazy here the last 30 days.



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