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Super Av sterring box

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JFinley

07-20-2006 09:59:10




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When the wobble in the front tires and tie rods is bad, do you go into the sterring box and replace gears and bushings or get a new box from somewhere like JP Tractor Salvage and hope that it is going to be better?




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Dave Sherburne NY

08-03-2006 16:13:16




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 Re: Super Av sterring box in reply to JFinley, 07-20-2006 09:59:10  
It probrobly has the same steering components as a super A . Make sure the tie rod ends are tight
Some are like a truck,when worn out replace. Some are adjustable, they have a cotter pin through a
large nut with a screwdriver slot. Look at the steering arm, thats the piece fastened to the bottom
of the tractor that the inner tie rods hook to. If it has a large nut on the bottom tighten it. If it has a bolt on the side too bad, that means it has
a square end on the vertical steering shaft and it
is worn you can take it off and shim it to get
more life out of it. Next, inside the steering gear box on the vertical shaft, there is a sector gear which is held in place with a woodruff key {half moon}key
which could be worn allowing the gear to move on the shaft. E-mail is open, let me know what you
find.

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souNdguy

07-20-2006 10:49:11




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 Re: Super Av sterring box in reply to JFinley, 07-20-2006 09:59:10  
If you rely on 'hope' you can sure spend alot of money and not find out the problem. ( or cure it )

Rather than hope-ing and 'shotgun' style replacing of parts.. why not actually 'investigate' the problem and determine where your source of slack is.

I'm not familar with that specific machine.. but in general.. you can brake the steering system in most tractors down to the steering box.. then sector arms, draglinks and ends, tie rod ends, pittman or steering arms, spindles, bushings, bearings, hubs, rims and tires.

Tires with knots will cause jerky steering.. bent rims will also cause this. Tie rod ends and draglink ends with wear will cause loose play in the steering. Steering/pittman / sector arms with oblong 'egged' out holes and/or loose keyways or slipping splines will cause play in the steering. Bad spindle bushings can cause binding in the steering. Bad hub bearings will cause wobble in the tires which may be seen as play in the steering.. same for a worn out hub.

Sector gears with incorrect backlash settings will cause excessive play.. bushings and thrust bearings in the steerng box can cause play and or binding of the steering.

Start jigglink pieces by hand and look for play upstrem and downstream. if everything is tight except for the box ( you turn wheel, and there is a lag before the sector arms move ).. then pop the box open or look at the manual to see if there is an external backlash adjustment.. if not.. contemplate the drawing and look for areas that can wear and cause play.. like bearings and races.. bushings.. etc.

A quarter inch of play in a steering draglink or tie rod end can multiply to quite a bit of wheel movement... etc.

post back if you are still having problems diagnosing the problem.

Soundguy

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