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Super C Starter Problems

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Patrick in Illi

04-19-2006 16:14:46




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I bought a Farmall Super C a few years ago. It had been converted to 12v. My starter is still a 6v and has been giving some problems lately.It had been making a horrible grinding noise and does not turn over the motor. Should I have it rebuilt, and if I do, have it rebuilt for 12v. Or, should I just buy a reman. one and if so, what is the best mail order source. Thanks.




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Bob M

04-20-2006 06:49:37




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 Re: Super C Starter Problems in reply to Patrick in Illinois, 04-19-2006 16:14:46  
Patrick - I agree with John T below.

From your description it sounds like the starter drive pinion (or "bendix") is badly worn. This is a fairly normal occurance - even on 6 volts. Also probably the flywheel ring gear is somewhat worn. However the ring gear usually wears more slowly than the starter drive. Consequntly often just replacing the starter drive will solve the problem.

A new starter drive will run around $40, and is not difficult to install. (A new ring gear is also about $40 - however you need to split the tractor to install that...)

So I'd first remove the starter and look at the condition of the drive pinion and the ring gear teeth, then go from there.

Should you however decide to replace the whole starter and not just the drive, my recommendation is to have your existing one rebuilt at your local alternator shop. It'll cost less than a reman, and will be every bit as good. (Also you will be supporting a local businessman...) Be sure to tell 'em your running it on 12 volts now so they can install the appropriate field windings, etc.

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John T

04-19-2006 16:40:31




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 Re: Super C Starter Problems in reply to Patrick in Illinois, 04-19-2006 16:14:46  
Patrick, although they crank fast and usually work okay for extended periods, one disadvantage of using 12 volts on 6 volt starters is the extra load n punishment the starter drive may encounter from the increased kick in torque. Theres a chance maybe its ONLY a starter drive problem and the rest of your starter motor is fine?? Another possibility is you have damaged teeth on the flywheel OUCH and it needs repaired. See if it acts different if the engine is turned a bit so its at different flywheel teeth location, if she acts the same regardless of engine position, I suspect the starter/drive more then the flywheel teeth.

An inspection of the flywheel teeth and starter drive ought to find the problem, but if its gotta be totally rebuilt anyway (may just need a new drive remember) I would have it rebuilt with fields and armature for 12 volt operation, or price shop for a rebuilt 12 v unit?

When you say it makes noise but doesnt turn the motor Im guessing its trying to turn but the drive or flywheel doesent allow it so Im NOT suspecting any starter switch problem for now at least. A bad switch might cause no cranking or slowwwww w cranking if its all burned n carboned up.

John T

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