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Wow, Quick LESSON LEARNED..PIC INSIDE..LOL

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Craig Ellis

01-22-2008 19:13:53




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haha... Well, I finally got new tires on my Bolens. Instead of turf tires, I got new tires (Carlisle Power Trac) from gearworks. Thinking this would help me from spinning out all the time. First pull (1,000 pound class) I start in 3rd (I have 6 gears forward, 2 reverse) gear. I was kicking butt... no problems with traction or anything.. I was looking at a full pull. 3/4 down the track I completly run out of Horsepower. (Ive never had this happen). So I am also going to add weight to my weight rack and pull in the 1500 pound class as well. This time, Ill pull in 2nd gear to help me out and make it eaiser for the engine. Here we go, not as fast, but we are doing good. Now here comes the infamous 3/4 part of the track and the enigne is doing quite well,
Then all of a sudden..... (link) I hit the clutch, and back her down nice and slow and the crowd loved it... (oh well)

I am now in the midst of fabricating some wheelie bars..lol

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Lamont

01-24-2008 20:39:43




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 Re: Wow, Quick LESSON LEARNED..PIC INSIDE..LOL in reply to Craig Ellis, 01-22-2008 19:13:53  
Look at that ridiculously high hitch point. NO parts of pulling hitches should be allowed to be above the center of the axle/hub point including adjustment devices. This is a recipe for disaster. Keep the pulling point below axle/hub center and no one will need to worry about back-tip. Wheelie bars should still be used in case of breakage on the part of the hitch or chain. THINK SAFETY AND COMMON SENSE.

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Craig Ellis

01-25-2008 01:55:45




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 Re: Wow, Quick LESSON LEARNED..PIC INSIDE..LOL in reply to Lamont, 01-24-2008 20:39:43  
That "ridiculously high" hitch point is only 13 inches.

How are wheelie bars going to help at the point of when the hitch or chain breaks? When is comes to Garden Tractor Pulling, that is just the nature of the beast is for the front end to rise up (as long as you have excellent traction). I had always used turf tires and always just spun out. But I changed to new tires and that is what happened. Again, "lesson learned".

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Lamont

01-25-2008 02:59:59




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 Re: Wow, Quick LESSON LEARNED..PIC INSIDE..LOL in reply to Craig Ellis, 01-25-2008 01:55:45  
The hitch height being ridiculous is because of its relation to the height of the center of the axle be it 13 inches or 4 inches. Any hitch height above the center line of the axle is asking for tip over. Someone needs to be appointed to a safety committee quickly!

Traction advice: front-end up high = poorer traction, front-end down lower = better traction. That doesn't matter if its a garden tractor or 15,000 pound smoke-blowin' diesel. If you're winning with your front-end that high, enjoy it while it lasts. It won't be long before others who learn to keep the front-end down will be doubling your distance.

Most importantly, BE CAREFUL!

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Craig_Ellis

01-25-2008 12:36:37




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 Re: Wow, Quick LESSON LEARNED..PIC INSIDE..LOL in reply to Lamont, 01-25-2008 02:59:59  
I do agree with you that yes... Safety is important. Also to a point that if the front end is up that much it is not going to accomplish very much.

If a person can keep the front end off the ground 6 inches without going any higher with the use of the wheelie bars, then you would get better traction since all the weight is now divided between the rear 2 wheels. (same thing you said basically).

We have a 3mph max speed, so you are doing everything you can to keep any all momentum going... sometimes, it just doesn't work out. But the wheelie bars are going to make a MUCH better improvement.

Craig

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Lamont

01-25-2008 18:20:07




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 Re: Wow, Quick LESSON LEARNED..PIC INSIDE..LOL in reply to Craig_Ellis, 01-25-2008 12:36:37  
You'll do even better with your front less than 1/2 inch off the ground and your wheelie bars not even touching. Maximum weight on rear wheels AND maximum lift on the sled.



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johndeereman

01-23-2008 14:42:42




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 Re: Wow, Quick LESSON LEARNED..PIC INSIDE..LOL in reply to Craig Ellis, 01-22-2008 19:13:53  
y is there slack in the chain? you dont need wheelie bars just move a little of the weight to the front



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redneckpullingteam

01-22-2008 20:04:01




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 Re: Wow, Quick LESSON LEARNED..PIC INSIDE..LOL in reply to Craig Ellis, 01-22-2008 19:13:53  
wow i cann't believe that the pull would not require wheelie bars or at least have someone to hold front end from coming up that high. glad you learned a lesson without getting hurt or crippeled and from now on think SAFETY FIRST (wheelie bars)



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