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power transfer gearbox set up.

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shaneriley

05-17-2007 20:42:26




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I have a project I want to build. I want to connect two 460 ford truck motors together side by side. I need to build a gearbox with two input shafts and one out put shaft that will go to the 9 speed tractor traler transmission. Does anybody out there know of a configuration that I can use to connect these two engines? Take into concideration that i will need to be able to drive it across the state if I wanted to...and pulling a heavy load....like say a couple of backhoes. Can anyone give me some pointers? I sure am trying to find anything I can concerning this subject.

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Baghdadchud

05-21-2007 20:30:18




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 Re: power transfer gearbox set up. in reply to shaneriley, 05-17-2007 20:42:26  
Sir: One last thing. One engine is more than enough power to do what you want, it is a matter of gearing. In the early 60"s, dad ran a Ford Louisville with a 427 gasser and a 9 spd all over the country hauling steel and averaging 70k lbs+. On anothe of his old tractors, He broke a crank while loaded with 63K lbs of bulk ball bearings in a bellyhopper. Mom pulled him and the load from Stafford into Springfield with a four door Rambler. Six cyl and 3sp on the column. Dad said she did smoke the clutch getting the entire load going.

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Baghdadchud

05-21-2007 05:23:57




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 Re: power transfer gearbox set up. in reply to shaneriley, 05-17-2007 20:42:26  
Sir: This is very interesting, I would love to really understand the motivation because it sure sounds like fun. Your best bet would be inline, connecting the cranks via chain. this would remedy the clutch problem. But, if you want to do the side by side mount, you will have to build a gear box, of which is not difficult but very expensive. with the gear box, you will be able to influence output RPM and torque. This though leads to the issue of a clutch and flywheel if you want to run the 9spd. Just food for thought. Good luck on your project.

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i agree

05-18-2007 19:29:47




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 Re: power transfer gearbox set up. in reply to shaneriley, 05-17-2007 20:42:26  
get a skillet face semi, used cab over's are cheap these day's even though there ugly i'm sure there better looking than two 460's and probly sound better to boot!



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shaneriley

05-18-2007 19:43:43




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 Re: power transfer gearbox set up. in reply to i agree, 05-18-2007 19:29:47  
I don't know what a "skillet faced" semi is,but I AM planning on using a gutted out cabover for the frame and housing. Also, look's aren't inmportant to me. But figuring out a way to connect two 460 engines together and then to a 9 speed transmission is. So, got any ideas?



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yer crazy

05-18-2007 09:40:05




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 Re: power transfer gearbox set up. in reply to shaneriley, 05-17-2007 20:42:26  
Wouldn't it make more sense to just put ONE 454 Chevy in there? Just kidding, but I couldn't resiste. How about a bigger diesel engine. Where you gonna have room to put to BBF's next to each other?

Seriously, what the heck are you building that couldn't be done better with one bigger engine... Last I checked 460 Fords were lucky to get 10MPG on the highway so divide that by 2 and get an average of 5MPG at $3/gallon or almost $0.60 per mile...

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shaneriley

05-18-2007 19:38:16




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 Re: power transfer gearbox set up. in reply to yer crazy, 05-18-2007 09:40:05  
One 454 engine won"t pull,say, a couple of bachoes. And a diesel engine doesn"t burn gasoline or I would use it. My set up will burn a hydrid fuel. I need help with a power transfer box, that"s all. If I had that I could go on with my dream machine. Also, they don"t HAVE to set side by side. They could set inline if I could make it to where it wouldn"t snap a crank shaft, (if they were joined there) under a heavy load and out in the middle of nowhere. I thought about a diesel engine and modifying one. I still could and would if I could find out how. Only thing is..it would HAVE to have a spark plug, and it would have to burn gasoline (or my hydrid). So...got any helpful ideas?

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buickanddeere

05-19-2007 19:21:23




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 Re: power transfer gearbox set up. in reply to shaneriley, 05-18-2007 19:38:16  
The inline works fine if phased correctly, balanced and lined up. Your two near stock 460's make less torque & HP together than one seriously built 460 street/strip motor. How deep are your pockets, how much time do your have on your hands &what shop facilities are you using? Which fuel(s) and why not just turbo or use an Eaton screw type supercharger with a bypass door? My other thought is maybe you are either early or late for April Fools day.

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Shaneriley

05-19-2007 20:33:09




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 Re: power transfer gearbox set up. in reply to buickanddeere, 05-19-2007 19:21:23  
Thanks for replying,however,I do not want one souped up 460 engine. I want two plain old STOCK engines. I am still on the learning end of things. per your reply...then if two 460 engines put out less torque and horsepower than one serious street/strip motor...then what do you recomend as an alternative short of a souped up motor? What I want to do is try to save the factory gas milage rating per each motor. The project need not have two 460 engine. It could be a combonation of any tw0 (or three ,or four) engines just as long as it would be able to "hook" up to a 9 speed tractor trailer transmission.
My money is strong,I have the time,and I live in the 9th (or 10th) largest city in the U.S.A. So there are a number of machine shops/fabrication shops, that I can use. I just need an idea on how to hook these motors together so that they will turn at the same time. That's why I am trying to seek help here to find out a way to build a "power transfer box"...or call it what you want. I thought about copying the design Funk manufacturing uses for their hydraulic pump stuff. But Just not sure. I need more ideas. I need a hook up box. and it must be able to run the whole contraption down the highway,and it must be able to carry a heavy load,say like,two or three backhoes. So...got any ideas you can shoot my way partaining to a way to hook these motors together and run it down a highway?

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