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mohead10

02-06-2007 16:26:32

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i have never seen the like of so many kids that call themselves pullers.get on Y.T asking for everyone's free help.if you are going to run good pay a pro to build your motor,if you can't do it yourself.if you could do it yourself you would't be asking all of those questions.and if you can't pay a pro just run stock and stop crying.

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Shaggy

02-08-2007 19:19:37

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

I am a Green horn or Wannabe puller I guess you could say. I ask questions all the time or check here and read what others have to say. I put together my own stuff but I don"t spend alot of $$ either on big motors. I just want to have fun with what I have! I may not be at the top of the heap when I do pull but by asking questions I just might be the guy that gets by someone when they make a mistake.
Shaggy

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slick48756

02-07-2007 20:59:13

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

If he aint beat ya yet y all the cryin

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bbarenie

02-07-2007 20:54:26

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Re: green horn pullers/mohead10 in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

moline-head 4210
what do ya pull ?

And what could be your complaint !
Is the garden tractor missing on one !

I just don't get tractor puller's anymore, I don't get the sport, I have no idea why you would spend the money, and or why you would loose to cheaters ?

Each an every club, board members, in their own ignorance, have their own agenda !
just talk to anyone for 2 minutes, they will expose their color (tractor), their classes pulled, and how they want the club to operate !

Have never met a puller yet, that didn't want to win over, because of his own pride !

Now you all go hot !!

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Dairy Farmer

02-08-2007 18:54:34

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Re: green horn pullers/mohead10 in reply to bbarenie, 02-07-2007 20:54:26

I'd have to agree with you. I don't see many tractor pullers using them out in the field or even for ANY farm work for that matter. I people were smart, they would build a tractor with more power and put it to good use ans use it for the big jobs around a farm like say... filling silo ( running the blower with it)or discing. you get my drift? that's what i did before. just built tractors to have more power and then put them to good use, not pulling. just my 2 cents. DF

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Ohio puller

02-07-2007 20:08:57

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

I know of many pullers who go out of there way to help others and give ( good ) advice when someone ask. The reason these pullers do this is because it keeps the sport going ! Myself, I"d rather have the respect and trust of others then a ten dollar prize.

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JD hauler

02-07-2007 15:20:58

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

Well, the thing that has happened is that pulling has for some become either a business or some people just take it too serious, what I mean by that is they get somthing to work or figure somthing out and then you friend wont tell you how to or what to, then friendships become ruined all over a 75 cent ribbon, an old puller I know once said that he would never give out any tips or secrets, the gentleman is up in years, and will apparently take the things he has learned with him on his way out of this life someday and then no body can use what his knowlege was. Seeem like a waste, I would help any one with what I know, but some of the pro pullers are just way to arrogant to give any assistance, I like the old way of borrowing weights, losing by 5 inches or beating that guy you never think you would be able to , it is so sad to see a sport we all enjoy, get turned into a competition to ruin fellowship and friends.

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mohead10

02-07-2007 15:12:30

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

I would help anyone.The green horns I'm talking about are the ones that want someone else's hard work.You need some help to get started but, you have to pay your dues to the sport.If you need to know things like what kind of flywheel you need and you don't get an answer don't cry, call someone that knows.A good motor builder can help.And by the way the green horn hasn't kicked my butt yet because his tractor isn't running yet!

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Willywonka2

02-08-2007 19:57:34

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-07-2007 15:12:30

Sounds like if the greenhorn gets his flywheel you are afraid of getting beat. JMO

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ChadS

02-07-2007 17:04:15

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-07-2007 15:12:30

Where else can one look? Time is the only dues anyone needs to pay when it comes to dedication to the cause. Some, think that the info they have is priceless and has to be kept a secret. So be it,,,,, if its that darn good they can keep it, and we have all the fun beating them. if I have an answer, Ill give the info if I can help, we all do, and I belive we all would infact jump in and lend a hand to anyone who needs it. What gripes me on YT is so called people call themselves pullers, and sit back and heckle everyone else,, and turns out, they dont even own a tractor. THAT,, is what spoils the fun, that, is why some dont jump out and let themselves be heard, in fear of ridicule, threats, the list goes on and on etc etc. Im glad and more than willing to share info,, so is everyone else,,,,, if no answer,, keep on askin! Someone will jump in there!! JMHO,, chad

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MJF

02-08-2007 18:43:17

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Thanks Guys in reply to ChadS, 02-07-2007 17:04:15

Luckily we have Chad here, I've learned a pile from him and many others and appreciate it greatly. Without these guys helping me it's hard to tell where I'd be at. I've asked a bunch of questions and will ask many more, it's really nice to have somewhere to turn to. Thanks Guys

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bbarenie

02-07-2007 20:58:51

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to ChadS, 02-07-2007 17:04:15

Hey: chads
Hey dumbell !
Some of the information learned, is absolutely (priceless).
Do you k-no y, because, us jag's payed for it !@

And we acquired friend's and teacher's along the way ! It's called relationship's, and that in it's self, is (priceless)

Have a good day !

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BushogPapa

02-08-2007 16:18:00

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to bbarenie, 02-07-2007 20:58:51

Oh---like the way they "Race" in NASCAR..(Relationships)..I HATE that kind of Racing....

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ChadS

02-08-2007 16:57:00

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to BushogPapa, 02-08-2007 16:18:00

LOL something like that,,, they say rubbing is racing,,,, but eventually,, they both end up in the wall,, or black flagged, or worse. Chad

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ChadS

02-08-2007 07:12:42

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to bbarenie, 02-07-2007 20:58:51

Where have ya been Bud???? Good to hear form you! Got the new set of rules this week,,, Chad

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bbarenie

02-08-2007 15:18:56

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to ChadS, 02-08-2007 07:12:42

So:
The club wants to run an honest farm stock class ?
Sounds like something, I very much would like to partisipate in !
Have a good Day !

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ChadS

02-08-2007 16:54:06

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to bbarenie, 02-08-2007 15:18:56

All thats allowed is a .125 overbore kit for that particular tractor. Stock stroke. I dont see anything wrong with that,,,, The stroker tractors should step up and build back up the modified classes. Chad

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BushogPapa

02-08-2007 16:25:56

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to bbarenie, 02-08-2007 15:18:56

What will "Farm Stock" be..???

Any engine you can stuff in the frame and paint the right color..???

Seems that is the path being taken lately...

I mean, a kid pulling his family's original JD "A" against another "A" that uses funny fuel, and has to have 24 Volts and open petcocks just to start it...???? AC's that are "Hard-Blocked", with 400 cu in against Stock Original Cockshutt 20's..???? Who are we kidding, this can't go on...it HAS to change..!! If it takes 2 tracks to get it done in one day, so be it, but Split it up for Gosh sakes..!!

Ron.

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ChadS

02-13-2007 17:24:09

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to BushogPapa, 02-08-2007 16:25:56

Well,,,,, , we have classes for the one stock A and be in a class thats just like em. Id have to say, that our farm stock, is a warmed over farm stock,,,, pretty tough running machines that swaer they are stock in everyway. maybe they just pull well, or they have the higher hp to help em, or both,,, Gotta be a stock block casting number, what they dont see, and wont see, they wont know about. Bad to say, but its true. Chad

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BushogPapa

02-13-2007 18:08:27

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to ChadS, 02-13-2007 17:24:09

That would be perfectly Fine with us..!! But, last year we kept having Div 3 and Div 4 tractors thrown in with the old JD "R", and that just ain't right...!! I mean, Twin Trubos and active Torque amplifiers and a "Little" beyond our old Gal...!! Shucks, we can't even spin the tires....!!

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ChadS

02-14-2007 17:38:48

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Re: green horn pullers/chads in reply to BushogPapa, 02-13-2007 18:08:27

Thats what happend to our farm stock last season. Lots of the old mods dropped back into farm stock. it really diminished our mod classes, but man did it stir up a battle in the farm stocks! So they went to the stock crank rules, which is new,,,, We have a new class just for that big deere,,,, 7501-10000lb special farm stock,,,, same rules apply, but heavier weights to run the wheatland tractors. Lots of G molines wating in the wings,,, we did away with the wheatlands for a while due to tire size problems,, but they opened it up so you can run 18.4X34's or whatever under that. Should be a good class! Get a chance,, stop by and check us out! Chad

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Mike Aylward

02-07-2007 14:54:39

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

I will never turn anyone down for help. I would rather have everyone speak to me at the end of the day and be respected than to be the guy that supposedly wins all the time that nobody likes. Plus, it"s more fun to beat someone after you"ve given them good advice..:) Mike

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KAG

02-07-2007 12:00:27

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

Most of the "gentlemen" that don't want to give advice or help, or give bad advice or help can't stand to get beat by somebody new. So there for they don't want anybody new coming into the "sport". They just wanna keep to there own little group and forget the rest of the world exists. Just my opinion. Me, I want to beat the best or get beat by the best!!! What about YOU?

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Unanswered questions

02-07-2007 10:58:03

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

If all you guys are so willing to help why are there so many good questions on this forum that never get a single reply????? ????

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Real Puller

02-08-2007 07:34:29

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Unanswered questions, 02-07-2007 10:58:03

It could be worse. You could get some BS answer from an uneducated moron that makes no sense at all.

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SPT

02-07-2007 12:21:55

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Unanswered questions, 02-07-2007 10:58:03

There is a difference between someone on this page fishing for general, how to make my tractor pull better questions, and a guy at a tractor pull who either has specific questions about tractor pulling or has a tractor there and is a new puller.
Don't usually respond to general questions on this pulling page, but really enjoy a good conversation with people who are interested enough to either bring there tractors and try them out or come to pulls to gather info.

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mlpankey

02-07-2007 05:58:05

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

is it green horns or old timers a sleep. the one who sleeps finds himself left in the awakes dust.

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dboll

02-07-2007 05:55:28

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

When I started pulling 21years ago a few guys gave some pointers that are still true today and I appreciate them for it. I have borrowed weights and gave out advice that bit me in the a$$ and I will continue to do the same. I will tell anyone any thing I know because I like to new pullers get started, that is what I like about pulling, friends working together and having fun. If someone can't stand losing pulling is not for them, I know, for i have been handed my share of losses, not that I don't mind doing good. I dream up alot of my own stuff, I have the means to buy a turn-key puller but what fun would that be? Don't be afraid to ask me a tractor question, I won't mind answering.

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SPT

02-07-2007 05:14:51

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

That's all part of it, how can we expect the sport to stay healthy and grow if we are now tilling to help the newcomers. We all were rookies at one time. Nothing makes me feel better than a new puller asking my advice and me being able to help him.
My wife gives me the devil for giving out advice, lending out tires, and revealing what she thinks are big secrets. It's tractor pulling, it's suppose to be fun, no big secrets, just have a good time.
This and $.02 will get you the weather forcast for the day, cold, cold, cold,

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Carl A. Muller

02-07-2007 04:58:27

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

I can't believe some people. I know when I first started garden tractor pulling there was alot of people that would not give me any help at all. and I decided that then and there I would not be like that if anybody needed anything I would help them. I think alot of people have forgotten that tractor pulling is fun.

I know I have not.

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mdog

02-07-2007 05:43:43

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Carl A. Muller, 02-07-2007 04:58:27

Bravo Mr Muller. I had the same experience when I started pulling. Listening to the wrong people give bad advice, or none at all. I too decided i would help anyone who asked, to the best of my ability. This, on more than one occasion has cost me a place or two, but knowing you might have made someones day a bit brighter is worth more than a trophy. No one is getting rich at this, so have fun.

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Mr. Wonka

02-06-2007 20:15:06

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

I think he got his rear kicked by a kid with half the tractor,half the money, and probably by a half a track LMAO

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Lamont

02-06-2007 19:55:10

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

Sounds like the "green horns" have been doing a little butt kicking. Why don't you build a better tractor if you can do it yourself, or pay a pro more money to build you one if you can't. Of course, I guess if you could do either one of those, you wouldn't be on YT "crying." Sounds like you need MOLIFE mohead10. Calm down. It's just tractor pulling!!!!!

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Joe in MN

02-08-2007 11:33:11

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Lamont, 02-06-2007 19:55:10

BOY! your right down nasty with every one, no wonder you Dance with Satan in your ways at hand, got you pegged for sure Lamont....LOL

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Lamont

02-08-2007 19:38:15

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Joe in MN, 02-08-2007 11:33:11

Merry Christmas early this year Joe. Email me. It's open.

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Joe in MN

02-09-2007 05:06:29

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Lamont, 02-08-2007 19:38:15

The only thing open with you Lamont is your Evil Mind...

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Lamont

02-09-2007 18:25:14

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Joe in MN, 02-09-2007 05:06:29

Joe, are you so blind that you can't see that you are the one who keeps on bringing this up? Everyone else can see that but you. Please go on your way. I have come to understand you, and I refuse to cast more Pearls before swine. Just drop it and go on or email me. Let's not have anymore of this on this board.

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Joe in MN

02-10-2007 04:44:03

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Lamont, 02-09-2007 18:25:14

Ya Lamont, Your just like most --- can't take pressure when it comes to the Truth, now remember what I said and will say -- when you DEVIATE from the Word, you will be CURSED with All the Things of the Word... GOODBYE....

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Lamont

02-10-2007 06:42:23

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Joe in MN, 02-10-2007 04:44:03

Joe, I feel absolutely zero pressure from you. This is not the place to have these discussions. Email me if you wish. It is obvious that you are the one who feels pressure. You won't email me on my personal email because you feel very insecure in your limited knowledge of the scripture. You challenge me on this board because you know I will not discuss biblical issues on here anymore. Everyone can see that. I'm ready, willing, and my email is open. You are invited to have an open discussion with me; just not on this board. Don't let the pressure get to you now. Come on!

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Joe in MN

02-10-2007 06:54:13

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Lamont, 02-10-2007 06:42:23

So what's your problem Lamont, can't you email me direct ?????// or do you need more help ????

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Lamont

02-10-2007 07:58:27

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Joe in MN, 02-10-2007 06:54:13

I have a better question. Why would I email you?

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Joe in MN

02-10-2007 08:24:22

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Lamont, 02-10-2007 07:58:27

Here's the Answer,,, Cause your afraid of the Truth...

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Lamont

02-10-2007 08:53:13

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Joe in MN, 02-10-2007 08:24:22

How does that answer make any sense to the question I asked? I would email you because I"m afraid of the Truth????? See how you make absolutely no sense????? By the way, notice now I use 6 question marks????? Wow, that"s scary isn"t it. I did that just for you.

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Joe in MN

02-10-2007 10:30:45

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Lamont, 02-10-2007 08:53:13

Yup --- your right ( it don't make sense to you because you don't understand what Truth is ) and seem you want to say away from it, that's normal for the Natural people of the Word...

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Paypal Joe is Back

02-10-2007 08:35:56

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Joe in MN, 02-10-2007 08:24:22

Joe why dont you go to the Politics and OT board?
They would give you a whupping pretty quick. Also I suggest you limit your time on here.This is the pulsating brain of you know who. Does your buddy in WI know you are constantly on the pulsating brain? I will turn you in.

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Joe in MN

02-10-2007 10:26:24

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to Paypal Joe is Back, 02-10-2007 08:35:56

Go for it !!!!!

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Screamin DC

02-06-2007 19:16:32

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

Hey mohead10, go pay a pro for a personality.

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Dale in Ar.

02-06-2007 18:27:48

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

Well not everybody came out of the womb knowing everything about everything like you did.My Daddy told me years ago,if want to know something that you don't know,ask someone.

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Jim Johnson

02-06-2007 18:19:18

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

Well if I have an answer and can help somone I'm going to do it. Sorry that you feel the way you do but that IS the main purpose of this site and I appreciate it. Jim

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Roberta

02-06-2007 17:29:44

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

Its people like you that ruins it for everyone.

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special olymipics

02-06-2007 17:10:36

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to mohead10, 02-06-2007 16:26:32

If you don't need advice, answers, or comments from others, why are you here? Everyone that does something, does it for a first time. The smart ones watch others fail and avoid the same mistakes.

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The Preacher

02-06-2007 20:05:02

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to special olymipics, 02-06-2007 17:10:36

As a relatively new puller, I"d just like to thank all those that helped me out with advice and tips/hints. I"m a mechanic by trade, so the engine wasn"t a problem, but I needed and received a lot of help on the setup of the tractor, how to read a track, where to place weights, what gear to use on what track, what tire pressure to use, etc., etc., etc., Thanks to all!!!!

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4010 pllr

02-07-2007 11:41:04

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Re: green horn pullers in reply to The Preacher, 02-06-2007 20:05:02

I agree whole heartedly. Everyone needed help and advice when they first started pulling, or they just aren't telling the truth. So play it again Sam!

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