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Lowering compression

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Mperfection

12-26-2006 16:54:55




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Anybody ever mill out the cylinder head to fit the piston bore? I know the chamber is small and oval shaped, but could i make it larger, the size of the cylinder bore, to lower compression? Are there any water passages close to that area. Lower compression = :) for me. ChadS knows why? Thanks for the help.




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ChadS

12-29-2006 12:52:33




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 Re: Lowering compression in reply to Mperfection, 12-26-2006 16:54:55  
Kerosine head,,, has a big chamber, its the lowest compression head there is. You can trim a little off them, best if the compression was lowered first before any grinding,,, polish up the chamber with fine grit. The surface is rough and that can be a restriction when a turbo in concerned. You then can add more boost pressure to make up the difference from the low compression head,, but its just more air and fuel going into it at that point,,,,, So,,, maybe more power??? Ive cut 8060 heads,, added the slanted area like the 450 head has,,,, thats pretty thick there,,, and can help ramp the air in, and out towards the valves instead of just up and down from the straight chamber sides. If you did that to a kerosine head,,, tuned up the turbo,, it might be stronger yet,,, Id say you would have to up the bosst pressure from going from the gas head to the kerosine head,,, its a 2 point drop in compression ratio from gas to kerosine heads,,,,, Just to make up te difference,,, but if you did,,, Would have to make more power and breathe a bit easier. Chad

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Ian Johnsen

12-31-2006 17:34:26




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 Re: Lowering compression in reply to ChadS, 12-29-2006 12:52:33  
Do Farmall kerosene motors have lower compression? I know in the Massey Harris tractors the K models have higher compression by 2-2.5:1.... Probably because kerosene is less combustable like diesel.



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ChadS

01-01-2007 13:15:55




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 Re: Lowering compression in reply to Ian Johnsen, 12-31-2006 17:34:26  
The base model IH tractors was a kerosine, low compression units. Started at 5.0 to 1 comp and worked their way up as they got newer, as more aftermarket parts became available, better gasoline. Sure, you could get the gas engine a the same time of production, but it was usually a special order,,, or specific order when the farmers back then ordered them, or took em in to IH to have repairs done, they swpaeed outt he low comp stuff with the more modern gas parts. Chad

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Ian Johnsen

12-27-2006 22:03:15




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 Re: Lowering compression in reply to Mperfection, 12-26-2006 16:54:55  
I know you're turbocharged, but don't you know that 8 to 8.25:1 is the ideal compression ratio for a gas turbo motor. Most tractors aren't even close to that stock. You'd be better off off putting pistons in that motor. Taking material out of a cylinder head that will be seeing boost wouldn't be too smart. How much boost are you making? You're probably having more problems blowing through your carb and keeping the floats balanced. You should convert to a propane carb system.A pressurized fuel system plus boost equals big horsepower. Then you'll have to consider a wastegate because it looks like you axed the internal one with your ehaust flange. Is that a t3 or tdo4?

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