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Wanting more power for a stock m

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M clunker

11-12-2006 01:57:01




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Hi guys. I not normally on this board (usally on the farmall) I got a ? thought you pullers could help me. I have a stock 1950 M What is a easy way to get some more power out of it? I don't want to break the bank (or the tractor)or rebuild it is a work tractor that i'm restoring I just want a littel more out of her. Dont know much about pulling I've read some of the posts.If you can get a H or M up to 60+ hp surely you can help me get a littel. THANKS

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M clunker

11-14-2006 01:39:46




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 Re: Wanting more power for a stock m in reply to M clunker, 11-12-2006 01:57:01  
How do you jet a carb? I rebuilt it about 6 months ago. Is there a kit or do you just buy the jet.It is a IH carb.( Hey ChadS if you see this I'll holler at you when i get home to let you know I have done.Thanks for the help)



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ChadS

11-14-2006 12:30:08




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 Re: Wanting more power for a stock m in reply to M clunker, 11-14-2006 01:39:46  
Its all done to the carb bowl. ifyou have a stock M bowl,, hers is what to do:

remove the carb bowl, remove the metering stem, and the main load adjustment screw. Find the drill bit that fits in the main jet as tightly as it will fit,, that tells you the size,, then your gonna purchase 3 drill bits,, 3 sizes larger than stock, 5 sizes larger than stock, and 7 sizes larger than stock,,,,, ,
Take the smallest bit, and drill out the botom 2 holes of the metering stem, then take the second bit, and drill out the main jet. blow out the shavings, and try it. What your looking for is to be able to run full throttle rpms, and back out the main adjustment until the engine runs rich, it will smoke black, blubber, thats the sigh, you have it big enough to supply theengine with plenty of fuel. NOW, lets say you cant make it run rich, take the drill bit that you used to drill the main jet, and redrill the bottom 2 holes of the metering stem, try it again,,, If its a stock M, Im gonna go out on a limb and say drilling the main jet 5 sizes larger, and the matering stem with the small bit, you should have plenty,, but, there is always the possibility, that you need to go bigger. yeah hollar back!! Let me know whats up! ChadS

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11-13-2006 09:53:31




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 Re: Wanting more power for a stock m in reply to M clunker, 11-12-2006 01:57:01  
try putting elcetromic ignition onit. it is easy to install and is only about $100 give or take.



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M clunker

11-12-2006 12:56:30




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 Re: Wanting more power for a stock m ChadS loo in reply to M clunker, 11-12-2006 01:57:01  

More Q & A thanks



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ChadS

11-12-2006 09:28:17




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 Re: Wanting more power for a stock m in reply to M clunker, 11-12-2006 01:57:01  
Id pull the valve cover off, and check the casting number on the head, if you got a 8060 or 8574 head, your doing good, if it has any other 4 digit number, its a kerosine head, (low compression) and thats strike one for 60 hp. But if its got a good cyl head, change the manifold gaskets, carb flange gasket, use some sort of spray sealer, that helps em get a good seal and not leak. Thats usually a big problem, the manifolds work loose, and leak air. Put in a #27 venturi in the carburator, a 6 cyl carb bowl, off any IH 6 cyl gasser, and rejet the main jet size to match. A stiffer governor spring helps quite a bit, the governors are slow responding, and the weak stock spring in the culprit. That will make the governor operate faster, and give it some tunability, which really wakes em up in throttle responce, and hp and torque. Also, look under the distributor points plate, there is an advance under the plate, replace the springs from a kit that NAPA sells for a small block chevy, the kit is called a "recurve kit" for HEI ignition. There is 3 sets of color coded springs, color indicates the spring tension, but I used the second heaviest spring set inthe pack, Ive used the lightest set,, and there is a difference in how it runs,, but the spring is a bit puny for long term use. That makes the igniton timing speed increase, when you increase the speed of the advance, the faster the engine can accelerate. With just what Ive mentioned, you would have probably 150 bucks in the upgrades,,, something to do in the garage,, and put some noticable power in your stock M. OR,, if you dont wat to use a 6 cyl carb bowl, you can rejet the M bowl, but thats another paragraph,,, HAHA! But if you wanna know how, can do. ChadS

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M clunker

11-12-2006 12:37:39




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 Re: Wanting more power for a stock m in reply to ChadS, 11-12-2006 09:28:17  
Hey ChadS,I can't look at the head right now I'm at work and won't be home for about 2 weeks.Will just regular gasket material work for the manifold and carb or should I buy new ? I need to get another manifold any how the threads are in bad shape.I have adjusted on the govenror and set it to the carb but it did't make any differecne. I like the govenor spring idea. Makes sense old wore. Where can get one NAPA or a farm supply store i'm guessing? BY changing the spring do i have to adjust anything else? What about RPMs to much or will it just make things work faster and smoother. Thanks for the help and for making it understandable.

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ChadS

11-13-2006 13:29:17




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 Re: Wanting more power for a stock m in reply to M clunker, 11-12-2006 12:37:39  
If you was messing with the governor with the stock governor spring,,, No, it wont doo much good. TSC has a good spring selection,,, try to keep the length close, but not too short of spring,,,, If you get the right spring, the most you would have to do is turn the rpm screw back to the rpm you want to run. Go to NAPA, purchase a head gasket set, thats around 30 bucks,,, and you get alot of gaskets that if you bought individually,, would be more expencive,, but, the carb flange gasket, you have to get that one by itself. Since, you are speeding up the engines contorls,, you will have to increase the jet size to compensate. If the manifold you have isnt cracked, Id go with it till you want to replace it,, when you swap out the gaskets,, make sure its clean and flat. Chad

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