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building an oliver 88 for pulling

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yates

09-17-2006 17:33:53




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all tractors must have a 1958 or older block but gerry blocks are ok for john deere and 800 blocks allowed for M M. all tractors may have any flywheel they wish.stock rpm but they run more. 4 mph class max tire 15.5 8 mph class 18.4. i found a 1650 gas motor for sale or should i look for an 1850. whats a good set up




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TN PULLER

09-17-2006 20:25:31




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 Re: building an oliver 88 for pulling in reply to yates, 09-17-2006 17:33:53  
WELL I'M NOT CLEAR ON YOUR RULES, BUT THE 1650 AND 1850 BLOCK, EXCLUDING SLEEVES THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. MOST OF ALL FOUR MAIN MOTORS ARE THE SAME. YOU CAN INTER CHANGE TIMING COVERS ON ALL OF THEM, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN VALVE TRAIN COMPONENTS IN DIFFERENT MOTORS. I KNOW A GUY WHO HAS A 1600 HEAD ON AN 88 BLOCK, THE WATER JACKETS AT THE BACK OR FRONT (I DON'T RECALL) DID NOT LINE UP BUT THERE ARE WAYS AROUND THAT. SAYING ALL OF THAT , HAVE KNOW IDEA WHAT THEY ARE WANTING FOR THE MOTOR? BUT IF IT IS A GOOD REBUILDABLE MOTOR, THAT IS A GOOD ONR TO START OUT WITH. THERE IS ALOT OF COMBOS IN MIS MATCH PARTS THAT WILL WORK . OH YA ? I AGREE THE OLIVER PARTS AND MOTORS SHOULD BE NOT IN QUESTION THAN 800HD ENGINES THAT WHERE NEVER FACTORY INSTALLED IN 2WD TRACTORS, WELL I'VE SAID ENOUGH THIS SHOULD GET A FEW RESPONSES, GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT.

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Cody

09-18-2006 11:08:42




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 Re: building an oliver 88 for pulling in reply to TN PULLER, 09-17-2006 20:25:31  
A 1650gas and an 1850 gas engines are totally different. A 1650 gas is a 4 main block with a 9 port head, much like an 88 engine. An 1850 engine is a total different animal with a 7 main block and a 12 port head. However, a 1650 diesel engine is a 7 main block with a 12 port head. In my opinion, an 1850 engine is a much better choice to build, because of the stronger bottom end. A 1650 block will be better than an 88 block because of the pinned main caps and the pressure lubed crank.

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Dieselbear

09-18-2006 04:10:49




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 Re: building an oliver 88 for pulling in reply to TN PULLER, 09-17-2006 20:25:31  
If the rules alow MM's to use 800 blocks, what do it matter weather they were factory installed or not? Jerry's blocks weren't factory installed either but they are alowed.



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rules,,,

09-18-2006 15:18:35




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 Re: building an oliver 88 for pulling in reply to Dieselbear, 09-18-2006 04:10:49  
has to have a rule about replacement, or aftermarket engines. most clubs, have a clause in modified classes, thats pretty standard. If it BOLTS in, has a manufactures part number, dont have to be for that model,,, cause the clause protects that, if it bolts in, go for what you can do. I would have a problem with someone having a jerry's head and block in a div 2 or less classification. I also have a problem if they had a GBD with a 800 and try to run division 2, or have the new casted blocks that have no part numbers at all. thats more for div 3 and up, and the oliver,,,, well,,, Id say honestly, if they have to alter the driveshaft in anyway,, any shape or form, that should not be allowed. may as well bolt in a 300 6 cyl ford JMHO.

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On second thought,,,,

09-19-2006 07:54:24




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 Re: building an oliver 88 for pulling in reply to rules,,,, 09-18-2006 15:18:35  
they should allow the olivers to have the big block, but not in anything below a div 3 type class, limit the 77's to 88 blocks, and the 88's well,, the 310's of course! only let the 77's have the 310 in div 5, because thats 2 jumps on the block size, where if they had 88 blocks instead of the 310, its one step up,, like taking out a small block chevy and dropping in a 454,,, but not going for the 572 or what ever that boheemouth is,,,, not for what ever top of the line is off the bat. A 88 block in a 77 is OK for me, its a big block, but, a more realistic, more interpreted definition for div 3?

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