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Pullin On Black-Top

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new2pullin

05-24-2006 08:06:33




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Hey Guys,
Im new to pulling on Blacktop and was woundering if anyone could give me some advice? Tire Pressure? All the weight in the rear? Full throtle? Pull in Higher gears? Any Help would be awesome. Thanks.




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B. Jones

05-24-2006 15:52:37




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 Re: Pullin On Black-Top in reply to new2pullin, 05-24-2006 08:06:33  
I believe in going to the highest legal height. If your running a short drawbar, I would put a lot of weight on the back. Remember this is just my opinion. Because black top has less traction, You are not as likely to pull the front wheels in the air. Do you have wheelie bars?? If you are pulling with a lot of weights, you may need some on the front. My 180 at 7000 pounds had 15.5 by 38 tires. On black top I don't think big tires are much if any help. Remember my one time night of glory sure supprised my veteran pullers that were used to pulling on dirt. By the way , my first place pull was disqualifiied because I borrowed the tractor from a guy that lived across the county line. We just had it weighted right for black top pulling.

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B. Jones

05-24-2006 14:26:36




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 Re: Pullin On Black-Top in reply to new2pullin, 05-24-2006 08:06:33  
I agree with Street Puller. 35 years ago I pulled a 180 Massey Ferguson (Stock at 63Hp) at 7000 pounds in a local pull in North East Missouri on blacktop. I put most of the weight on the back and extended the drawbar to make it as long as it would go.I outpulled all the high hosrsepower tractors with short drawbars. They were all set up for pulling on dirt and ended up being way too nose heavy. They smoked their tires but could not get traction. I would like to add that had we pulled on dirt they would have beaten me big time. My advice is to use more weight on the rear. I spun out in low 3rd on the 180. On dirt I think it would have killed the motor in that gear. I used a longer drawbar to get traction. I am not sure what our tire pressure was but it worked good. Let us know how you do. B. Jones

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new2pullin

05-24-2006 14:46:19




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 Re: Pullin On Black-Top in reply to B. Jones, 05-24-2006 14:26:36  
I have a pretty short drawbar, so would it be better to have the drawbar higher or lower? Does it depend on the length of the eliminator chain? Thanks again guys for all the help.



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Street Puller

05-24-2006 08:39:09




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 Re: Pullin On Black-Top in reply to new2pullin, 05-24-2006 08:06:33  
Softer and newer tires the better,,,,Pressure depends on the weight of the tractor,,or duals,, High HP tractors wont do well in lighter classes, A good running stocker will do very well if you weight the tractor right. It dont take HP,, it takes weight placement, and where exactly to put the rpm to launch and not spin,,, Lower rpm is best (50hp and up)heavy rear axle weight helps,, and use weights behind the axle to work as counter balance, WHEELIE BARS A MUST! What kind of tractor,,, weight class, and tires do you have?

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new2pullin

05-24-2006 08:50:15




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 Re: Pullin On Black-Top in reply to Street Puller, 05-24-2006 08:39:09  
I have got a farmall M with pleanty of hp. Im only running about 2000rpms. I will be running a 6mph class at 5750lbs, 6750lbs, and 7750lbs. I have a road worn set of Armstrong 18.4's. They are on a 16" wide rim. I plan on putting them on backwords to sharpen them for the clay tracks. Thanks for the help, i really appreciate it.



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Street Puller

05-25-2006 08:45:48




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 Re: Pullin On Black-Top in reply to new2pullin, 05-24-2006 08:50:15  
If the tire is an old pair,,,, harder tires wont grip as well as a new tire. More weight on the wheels will help,, to help plant the axle to the ground. Down here,, there is no limit as to how close the hook point can be from the center of the rear axle,,, so if you can get it closer,, do so,, or run the rule limit speced out for you. If your running pressd steel rear rims,, put as much weight as you can on the wheels, or if your running cast centers, thats better,, you wont have to put so much on the wheel to compensate for the weight loss. At 5750,, there wont be much weight on the rear wheels,, If your running suitcase weights behind the seat,, you may want to consider putting the weight on the wheels rather than outback,, The reason is,, your hitch should provide enough weight transfer to allow the front end to be lighter and not need the counter balance off the rear,, wheel weights should help give you a harder grip to the street. As you get heavier, keep adding one wheel weight to each wheel, and utilize the rest of the weight to put behind the seat, and out front. Main goal is to make the rear axle very heavy to help plant the tires,, bout 13 psi for older hard tires may be a good starting point,, no less than 10,,,, Once the axle is heavy enough to get a bite and not be overpowered,, the counter balance weight placement on the rear, and eventually out front will take form right in front of your eyes. Its like watching a slow motion video when the tractors hook up and go, very graceful,,,, smooth, and many rounds to go round N round. Dont overpower the wheels to the ground,,, youll find that power in this type of pulling, (deadweight) will bite you. so be conservative on the throttle.

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