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OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold

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B Barenie

04-11-2006 21:36:26




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In a four cylinder motor, cubes being the same, there's no Moline that can ever run with a Farmall. !

PERIOD !

I don't even believe, there's a tractor ever made in the same era that can compete !

Bring on the jon dereee's , the caessesss and what ever else !

You all have a good night !

bud barenie




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docjoe

04-12-2006 18:02:32




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to B Barenie, 04-11-2006 21:36:26  
You boy's must be running the paint dry classes? slip those farmall's up in the 8/12 mph classes and see how well they hold up. OH i almost forgot you will find a few old case boy's that will enjoy your company. later joe



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Mopower

04-12-2006 05:36:56




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to B Barenie, 04-11-2006 21:36:26  
Too bad Farmall has to run 200-300 more r.p.m. to make that claim. How about we run Farmall and Minnie at equal cubes AND equal r.p.m.? Better yet, let's run both on propane too. Hey, where did all the Farmalls go?



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dogonewild

04-12-2006 14:02:11




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to Mopower, 04-12-2006 05:36:56  
everything has its advantages and disadvantages



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bloodred

04-12-2006 06:06:36




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to Mopower, 04-12-2006 05:36:56  
well then why dont you run your minnie 200-300 rpms??? I know there was a guy at our that use to sweep the 5000-9500 class with his minnie mo's until we got a couple new farmall pullers which the "m" has won the same pull 5 years in a row and the guy with the minnies only pull the heavy classes now. I am not raggin on minnies. i actually think they are kind of neat and like to watch them pull because there are not that many, but match the smaller farmall motor up with that huge minnie motor and the farmall will still win somehow.

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Mopower

04-13-2006 10:25:37




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to bloodred, 04-12-2006 06:06:36  
I'd run a Minnie 200-300 more if rules allowed. Nothin against Farmalls. I've seen Baker run and whoop a lot of folks. Nice engines. Also seen some Minnies run and win that could have been a lot bigger. When it comes to breathing and late model heads, I-H has an advantage especially at smaller cubes. Still think way more MM potential from what I've seen out there running and after inspecting inside them buggers. Cube for cube? I think my buddy and I will run an experiment with a 400 cube Farmall vs. my 403 MM at equal rpm. 4232 heads vs. a 450 head, both using LP manifolds. I see some wild h.p. claims out there and wish they could be verified. Now M-M small block engines are a whole different animal. Uncharted territory. You feel about MM about how I feel about Case. Only a few out there, but I love to watch them pull.

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Jeff Oliver

04-12-2006 07:03:57




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to bloodred, 04-12-2006 06:06:36  
Tunica Ms. Dec. King of the Hill. Winner Minnie Mo. Nough said



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Lamont

04-12-2006 15:55:08




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to Jeff Oliver, 04-12-2006 07:03:57  
6 cylinder !!!



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Jeff Oliver

04-12-2006 19:52:01




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to Lamont, 04-12-2006 15:55:08  
Oh I know. I was just seeing if I could get a little more reaction out of him....Not that i would EVER rag anyone or something... LOL!!!!



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Jak

04-12-2006 10:18:56




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to Jeff Oliver, 04-12-2006 07:03:57  
Thats two Minnie Mo's that has taken the King of The Hill so far and three M Farmalls and one time a G John Deere won it.Next December we'll see if the Molines will tie it up.Was at Murray KY at a NATPA pull once and it came down to an M and a GVI with the GVI winning.That four cylinder was impressive but the Minnie 6 had a little more.



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AC WD45

04-12-2006 04:59:47




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to B Barenie, 04-11-2006 21:36:26  
Ask Paul Marlatt that-he is building a monster 5 Star I hear for Bradleys--will not be very M Farmall friendly!!! IF he says that, it must be bad!!



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ChadS

04-12-2006 10:48:04




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to AC WD45, 04-12-2006 04:59:47  
There is 2 of those MM "monsters" in our club from Paul, They run strong, they sound mean, but in the end of each pull, A super m that is from the same group whoops on em both, and the SM did not even run that good! Engines dont mean much, its how you set em up to run to pull. Trust me, those same MM's are running over 2000rpm, the SM, just a tad over 1900. Shoot, Ive seen a stock G MM beat em too, so, I dont know what to say, must be operator error?? Has to be!

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Barnheater

04-12-2006 14:24:02




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to ChadS, 04-12-2006 10:48:04  
Example, locally we have a good running M & a good running U. They both start out in 4500lbs. The minnie has almost 300 cubes on the M and in 4500 the M almost always beats the U. The M hooks up great and the U spins hateful. Jump up a class or two and the big U prevails. Like the others said horsepower is great but you need to get it to hook to the ground.



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AC WD45

04-12-2006 12:48:18




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to ChadS, 04-12-2006 10:48:04  
The one I'm telling you about is a NEW one not out yet...when it does, the M's will be a cryin!!!!



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ChadS

04-12-2006 14:22:07




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to AC WD45, 04-12-2006 12:48:18  
OK



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AC

04-12-2006 04:46:24




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to B Barenie, 04-11-2006 21:36:26  
I dont know where you got that from, but, hey, I like it...lol..Andrew



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Big MM

04-13-2006 03:31:06




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 Re: OX -Blood Red verses Prairie Gold in reply to AC, 04-12-2006 04:46:24  
I heard the same thing about a big 5 star out of the Marlatt shop should be out this summer. That will be a Bad S.O.B and hard for the Div 4 Ox-blood M's to handle.



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