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Jerry, MI

02-11-2006 18:13:41




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I have a Chrysler engine that I need help identifying. I have a massy 101 that I need an engine for. I was hoping the Chrysler I have will work. Any quick tips for identifying Chrysler engines?

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Jerry




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ChadS

02-16-2006 05:57:17




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 Re: chrysler engine in reply to Jerry, MI, 02-11-2006 18:13:41  
Most of them had a brass ID plate on the side of them. The 265 is commonly sought for the 101, If your 101 had the chrysler in it already, you have the bellhousing. They made a small block 6, and a big block 6 cyl, 251-265 are same blocks, crank and rods are different measurements, but interchange,,,, The 265 bolts into the bellhousing, but watch the front mount. You may have to slot the holes in the bracket, or make another. Oliver combines had the 251, and the 265 flathead chrysler,, They had downdraft carbs, so you may need to find a big block manifold in an updraft version. ChadS

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Jerry, MI

02-16-2006 19:38:10




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 Re: chrysler engine in reply to ChadS, 02-16-2006 05:57:17  
Yes, thanks for the information. There was no brass ID plate on the side. I do however believe I have a 265. It came out of a Clark Tour that was used at an airport. It does unfortunately have the down draft carb on it. Any idea's on where to find a different manifold? Also, what should I use for a carb? Thanks!!



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ChadS

02-21-2006 09:34:06




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 Re: chrysler engine in reply to Jerry, MI , 02-16-2006 19:38:10  
Ive got a number, Ill look it up, he has a few 101 supers for parts. He has a manifold, but may need to be fixed. We built a 265 2 years ago, put in a stroker, and a cam. I think its around 320 ci. Sounds pretty good! We used a 101 super carb. We also used an aftermarket belt driven governor, that helped,,, You will know if its a 265,, bout the time you drop the engine in the frame, and see how close the radiator is to the water pump. You just have to make a spacer for the fan so it dont hit, there is room, but, not much after the fan is installed. It runs strong when you turn it loose, but under 2000 rpm, it works good,,, hooks right up and holds it steady. Im thinking the parts are in MN,,, Ill look up that number. A 101 massey, is a very underestimated puller in a low gear speed limit class,,,, has that fast low gear in it! ChadS

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Jerry, MI

02-23-2006 14:06:23




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 Re: chrysler engine in reply to ChadS, 02-21-2006 09:34:06  
That would be great if you had that number for me. Where did you get your aftermarket governor from? I think I can get about everything to rebuild the engine from napa. The engine is for sure a 265. It has already been bored to .080. I will probably leave it like it is. Just put all new parts in it. Just out of curiosity though, what exactly did you do to yours, if you don�t mind telling. How much did you stroke it, and what pistons did you use. I�m new at this. I have a guy that is really good with farmalls that is willing to help me. He has never messed with a Chrysler to know what parts are easily accessible and work well when boring and stoking. You can email me at [email protected] if you would like.

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Jerry

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scotc

02-12-2006 01:23:51




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 Re: chrysler engine in reply to Jerry, MI, 02-11-2006 18:13:41  
If the distributor is at the flywheel end it's a smallblock ("LA" engine), 273, 318, 340 or 360 c.i. Unless the valve covers have 10 bolts instead of five, then it's a magnum, 5.2(318) or 5.9L(360). The magnum smallblocks take a different intake manifold due to manifold bolt angles. Magnum heads will work on la blocks as long as the magnum-specific valvegear is used but la heads won't work on magnum blocks because the magnums oil the rockers through the pushrods. I believe the 360 has a 3.58 stroke, if the stroke on your motor is shorter the 340 had a larger bore, nearly 4 inches. The 318 and 340 run the same stroke. I don't know any specs on the 273 they quit building it a long time ago.
If the ditributor is at the front of the motor you've got a big block, 383, 400, 413, 426, or 440 c.i. The deck height on the 383 and 400 are shorter than the others but the crank for the 440 will fit in the 400. I don't know any casting numbers so the only one I can really help ID would be the hemi, It's spark plugs are in tubes straight down through the valve covers. The slant 6 had 3 sizes, the largest being 225c.i. They were designed to lean toward the right side of the car for hood clearance. The intake and exhaust manifolds are both on the left side of the motor and the motor will lean pretty good if you tip it so the carb sets level. Again, the only outward difference is deck height. bores were the same just different strokes. The 225 /6 can be pretty impressive for all it is but these motors are very limited due to port and manifold configuration and lack of interest by the aftermarket.
Ray barton Race Engines, Indy Cylinder head, or Galen Govier (he's the Chrysler numbers guru) could probably help locate` casting numbers and codes to ID what you actually have. Knowing what your engine came out of would help in ID'ing it too. If it came out of a 94-01 truck it's a 3.9(v6), 5.2, 5.9, or 8.0 (488c.i.)v10. Then there's the first generation hemi, which ended production in ther early 60's. It came in 361 and 392 c.i. versions. How to tell them apart I can't say as i've only seen pictures and it's been a while, but their blocks are similar to the 383's. One more thing, the smallblock, big block, and slant 6 families each had their own bellhoousings. if you've got an old motor i'd call Galen Govier, who knows, he may know someone looking for and willing to pay top dollar to match their car back up with it's original powerplant.

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aintseennobears

02-12-2006 18:21:42




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 Re: chrysler engine in reply to scotc, 02-12-2006 01:23:51  
I think he"s looking for a 6 banger flathead. Aw, heck, bolt a 440 Wedge in it an" kick everybody"s tail.

"Hammer down!"



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deene

02-11-2006 20:11:54




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 Re: chrysler engine in reply to Jerry, MI, 02-11-2006 18:13:41  
is it a senior or a super 101?..if a senior then the bellhousing is for a continental and you will have to look for a super bellhousing for the chrysler to work



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super101

02-12-2006 07:34:56




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 Re: chrysler engine in reply to deene, 02-11-2006 20:11:54  
if it is flat head engine 25" in long head is a 265 cu. in, 23 being a 216 or smaller engine i have a 265,.40 over for sale or i have a 334 cu. for sale also have 2 complete tractors for sale both have chysler bell housing one runs one parts have one ready to pull 265 truck engine, cam [email protected]



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