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best pulling carb for 77 oliver

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Chris East

01-26-2006 19:03:38




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Who builds a good carb for a 77 oliver with high flow 1550 intake on it.




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Hitt Motorsports

01-27-2006 17:46:52




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 Re: best pulling carb for 77 oliver in reply to Chris East, 01-26-2006 19:03:38  
Chris,

The main restriction on the 77 gas intake system is the inlet to the manifold (where the carb attaches). You can expect to lose 20 to 30% flow with the manifold. A stock 77 head with a 1.31 diameter intake valve will flow around 51 to 53 cfm at 10 inches H2O delta P at 0.300 valve lift. A 'best' ported head (no major surgery) with 1.50 intake valves will flow 73 cfm, a 50% increase. But as I tell all my customers, the piston sees more than the cylinder head. It sees the whole tract from carb to valve seat, so a good flowing head with a poor manifold will still leave you disappointed.

I need more info to point you in the right direction, like RPM where you want peak power, and your engine size. If you are limited to say 20% over RPM and you are 249 cubes (3.75 x 3.75), you should be at 55HP at 2250RPM with everything else stock. On the far end, with open RPM and same cubes, I can get you 125 HP at 3800RPM with correct match of head, manifold, and carb. For this power level, you'll need at least a carb with a 1.625 throttle plate and 1.25 venturi. Good luck with your Oliver!

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770

01-27-2006 14:19:37




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 Re: best pulling carb for 77 oliver in reply to Chris East, 01-26-2006 19:03:38  
A MS tsx 755 on a 77 with a 770 intake works pretty good. How many horse are you looking for??? Too much carb on a non-stroked smaller size engine is not a good thing. A 770 and 1550 intake are the same. Most aftermarket intakes have the larger size runners. What do you mean by "high flow"? I run a 77 head on my 77 (lots of machining)and it does OK. My brother had Motec do a couple of carbs for him and they worked OK. Treadwell carburetor usually has pieces laying around to help.

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Chris East

01-27-2006 15:18:45




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 Re: best pulling carb for 77 oliver in reply to 770, 01-27-2006 14:19:37  
stock block, oversize flat top pistons, 1550 intake,head, and exhaust



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770

01-27-2006 16:31:33




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 Re: best pulling carb for 77 oliver in reply to Chris East, 01-27-2006 15:18:45  
Do you have the 3-3/4 flats??? Sealed power SP 1176??? Anyway, A good carb rebuild for pulling will gain you about 3 horse. That's a lot in the scheme of things. My 77 head is ported and polished and I had quite a bit milled from the underside. 60-70 horse without stroking a 77 is really not that hard. What class do you pull in? Here's a pic....I think...



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Chris East

01-27-2006 17:30:48




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 Re: best pulling carb for 77 oliver in reply to 770, 01-27-2006 16:31:33  
no pic// no they are not the 3 3/4 but they will be. I just bought a 1550 head tonight. how much can be milled from it and should it be revalved. and what carb would you run with that combo. 931.624.4135 or I can call you or email if you like. I am just getting into this



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770

01-27-2006 18:30:34




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 Re: best pulling carb for 77 oliver in reply to Chris East, 01-27-2006 17:30:48  
You should be able to take the head to a local machinist and have it checked to see how much can safely be taken off. I took a gamble and took quite a bit off. I used the stock size valves. All the ports in the head match the larger size manifold runners and the carb. My carb has a different venturi, throttle plate bored and jet changed. My 77 dynos at 65 horse. I pull the 4000-4500 and 5000 "stock" classes. It's enough to compete where I live but keep in mind, there is a lot of others with more, and a lot of others with less. Tires, weights, speed all come into play. Have fun. Remember, a good governor and distributer helps too. Everything should be "right" to get every little bit out. I posted a pic of my 77 and 770 on the pic page. Nothing fancy, but this is supposed to be a fun sport.

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Chris East

01-27-2006 18:46:23




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 Re: best pulling carb for 77 oliver in reply to 770, 01-27-2006 18:30:34  
I appreiciate the help and your tractors look great!



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please help

01-27-2006 10:14:21




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 Re: best pulling carb for 77 oliver in reply to Chris East, 01-26-2006 19:03:38  
I wish somone would reply, I am looking for close to the same



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