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Warning to antique pulling clubs.

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Concerned pulle

12-09-2005 15:46:34




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There are a lot of great people with the antique pulling tractors and a lot of great clubs. Now here's a warning to one and all about the V8 pulling tractors. I beleave for the clubs that don't want them that's the way it should be but for some reason some of the V8 pullers are "PUSHING" there way into the clubs and pulls. This is causing clubs to split amoung the members and even destroy clubs. If I wasn't wanted somewhere I would just go some other place. It's hard enough to keep pulls going and clubs togeather without a bunch of extra BS like is going on with these V8's. There is fighting going on in Oh. Pa. Mo. that I know about for sure. I have heard of three other states but I don't want to give area's that I'm not sure of. In Ohio the one club split down the middle, members quit and there was even a fist fight. Hey guy's and gal's I hate to break the news to everyone but not every tractor can pull with every club. I have been turned away before because my tractor didn't fit what they allowed, so I went where I could pull, NOT try to push my way in anyhow, ( HERE IS YOUR SIGN )!!!!! I don't want to start a war here I would just like to say take warning cause if this doesn't stop it will only hurt the sport and the clubs. I didn't post my name because I don't want anything to fall back onto the clubs I belong to because they have already been drug over the coals enough due to the fighting.

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Diesel puller

12-10-2005 16:22:38




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Concerned puller, 12-09-2005 15:46:34  
Can't we all just get along! I've seen antique pullers in the same clubs that could not get along with other antique pullers in their club. If your club gets big enough you'll always have a few with their own agenda. I have pulled antique's for 25 years until the horsepower of these tractors got so high I couldn't compete without spending $6000 on the motor. So I took my $6000 and got a 6 cylinder diesel and pull 7000-10,000# farm stock classes. If I put a little cash into it I can can run 250-300hp. I can get it under 6500#, may try for 6000#. Aren't you glad that all these county fairs that have FARM STOCK CLASSES don't have a cut off year of 1960 and newer like the antique pulls do to keep the farm stock tractors out. Change does not come easy! Some times a little diversity brings in a few new fans and pullers. We all just want to pull what ever tractor it is we have. I don't see what the problem is if they all pull in their own class. Let's not make more out of this than it really is. The V-8's usually bring in the spectators, and heaven forbid if people would come and watch us and even pay admission like they do at those high horsepower tractorpulls.

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Terry in michigan

12-10-2005 12:36:45




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Concerned puller, 12-09-2005 15:46:34  
Concerned Puller,
I think you have a good point. Some guys forget it's supposed to be antique tractor pulling. They're getting away from antiques. In my opinion, this is not good. This is how this hobby started. Seems like there's always some that want to pull apart a club. There are some in most clubs. I don't understand what these guys think they're reading, but I never heard you say anything about money. I don't believe they know how to read. Keep strong in your stand. Merry Christmas.

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Dave in MN

12-10-2005 06:54:14




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Concerned puller, 12-09-2005 15:46:34  
As a antique puller that has just bought a V8 motor to put in a M, I read your post with great interest. Personally, I will probably have to pull exhibition with my "hybred" M as I don't suppose people that have spent $5000 to who knows what obscene ammounts of money they have spent on a "stock appearing tractor" will want to lose to a "cheap hybred". (assuming that I can beat them...who knows)

I can't imagine that the b****ing, complaning and backbiting would be much worse than it is now with all the "stock" tractors that have been bored and stroked, the truck, combine or larger model engines shoehorned into smaller tractors, jugs, heads and pistons from God knows what installed on "stock" tractors. Tires, hitches, frames, RPM's, transmissions, rear ends.....

I guess what it boils down to, it makes NO sense to me to spend big money on a "stock appearing" tractor when I can spend a fraction of that amount on a V8 and have a great puller. It might take awhile to get a class for V8s locally that I can pull in, but a friend of mine is already talking about putting something together to kick my butt. It looks like there alot of good times ahead pulling against him!!!!! I wonder what he will come up with...

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Jeff Oliver

12-10-2005 14:40:46




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Dave in MN, 12-10-2005 06:54:14  
As long as it is a seperate class It doesn't bother me at all. It's just kinda hard to advertise as a Stock class when there is a V-8 sitting in it. I don't ever remember seeing a Farmall, Oliver or any of the others come ou with a V-8 gas in them. We used to call those "hot rods" back in the day, if they were hot rods then then i would expect that they still are.

But if a club or an event wants to make a class for them go for it! I'l like to se them pull also.

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o,kspuller

12-09-2005 18:23:11




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Concerned puller, 12-09-2005 15:46:34  
We pull v 8 in kansas with our clubs and dont have a proplem with them and the 4bye 4 we have fun and pull, there is a class for everyone, have fun enjoy life,and oh merry christmas ,got to put up my christmas tree ,



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dark side

12-09-2005 16:53:03




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Concerned puller, 12-09-2005 15:46:34  
if you are so concerned, why do you belong to a club that is near 50% v-8's? all they wanted to do is add a 5000rpm class. the insurance is the same. add the blowshield protection,that you should have on your 3000rpm class, forget most of the other dumb $hit stuff you guys added, and have fun. we do.



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Concerned puller

12-09-2005 18:54:13




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to dark side, 12-09-2005 16:53:03  
Dark side. I'm not sure if you didn't understand what i'm trying to say or if what I said didn't come out right. The clubs I belong to don't pull V8's. All I'm trying to say is the fighting needs to stop or it will only destroy the clubs and the sport and if you can't get along togeather then each should go there own way. The coals I made mention of about the clubs I belong to is there are V8 people mad because we don't pull V8's and they don't like the fact that we don't and don't want to except our reasons for not pulling V8's. You are very wrong if you think I'm not concerned, I don't want to see any club or the sport destroyed in any way.

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

12-09-2005 16:13:13




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Concerned puller, 12-09-2005 15:46:34  
All the V-8 tractors that I have seen want to go like h---ll. Might be an insurance problem when they start being the fashion.



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Doug Boll

12-10-2005 07:53:37




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Jerry Cent. Mi., 12-09-2005 16:13:13  
Some guys run a few v8's around here, either in their own class or with the wildcat pullers. We also run some pickups. I don't have a problem with it. I have noticed that often the antique pullers are a differen't breed than the v8 or truck pullers, good bad or otherwise. I figure it's another twist, the v8 tractors came and went 20 years ago, now some are back. I do have concerns for safety. 1000hp is just a summit catalog away!

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Flogger

12-10-2005 13:06:53




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 Re: Warning to antique pulling clubs. in reply to Doug Boll, 12-10-2005 07:53:37  
Keep it safe. Trans blankets, steel around the crankcase, RPM and speed limits probably not a bad idea either.



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