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Curious

11-14-2005 19:33:24

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I just heard that they are going to let 501 red diamond truck motors run in the 460, that is not right, I never knew that int. put a 501 red diamond in a 460, it will not bolt right in, if they alow that i will not be there, neither will a few more. Its not fair for me to spend alot of money on a stock motor in my oliver to compete against a truck motor, make a class just for truck motors, or send them back home.

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Detective MS

11-15-2005 08:57:47

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Re: Tunica in reply to Curious, 11-14-2005 19:33:24

Hey Brian l, why not use your real name?

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Lamont

11-15-2005 07:23:07

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Re: Tunica in reply to Curious, 11-14-2005 19:33:24

What kind of "stock" motor are you running, and in what class? What RPM you run? What heads you run? What intake and carb? Surely the RD motor is not the only "UNFAIR" allowance you can find!!!

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Wayne Perry

11-14-2005 20:32:35

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Re: Tunica in reply to Curious, 11-14-2005 19:33:24

They are not legal in the stock "classes" so your "stock" motor shouldn't be competing with them. The rules for Modified classes state only that "parts must be of factory origin". International tractor...international motor (both pre 1960. Only in "Stock" classes are the tractors required to be "production models".

This rule has been in place since 2000 without change. It is not something that we are just now allowing....Wayne Perry, Mean Green Pulling Team

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Hillbilly Hooker

11-15-2005 17:59:20

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Re: Tunica in reply to Wayne Perry, 11-14-2005 20:32:35

I am all TORE UP over this bickering! UH What time do we eat? H.H.

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Turtle Gears

11-15-2005 18:12:37

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Re: Tunica in reply to Hillbilly Hooker, 11-15-2005 17:59:20

H.H. you still hungery,Ive got some fish left! T.G.

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Rahlo

11-15-2005 21:27:30

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Re: Tunica in reply to Turtle Gears, 11-15-2005 18:12:37

I'll come get the fish and stop by and drop some off to HH if you still have some. I had a great time. Oh, planning to have a great time at Tunica despite the whining and complaining.

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Hillbilly Hooker

11-15-2005 18:36:40

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Re: Tunica in reply to Turtle Gears, 11-15-2005 18:12:37

Yes, do you deliver? Its awful cold. That was some good fish. Yall did a good job. H.H.

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jd b puller

11-15-2005 12:51:35

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Re: Tunica in reply to Wayne Perry, 11-14-2005 20:32:35

Not sure how you can have a ton of money in a "stock motor" - oh well, to each his own. But I do have a couple questions which should clear up a bunch of issues...

Wayne, can you clear up the following questions? I'm kinda of the mindset that the RPM and Speed limit equal things out, until you throw in the "sandbag factor". By that I mean where the guy has big HP and can idle down to meet speed limits and then open it up at the end to gain wheelspeed. The only way around that is to say that you can't touch the throttle past XXX spot on the track.

1. Where do the Jerry's Blocks for the Deere's fall into the mix? Treated like a powerblock?

2. Can I stuff a JD G Block/head in my B? Same mfgr and same # of cylinders/fuel. Didn't say I could do it just want to know what the rule is.

3. If you build some hermaphrodite, what RPM's does the engine need to run at? Those for the engine or for the tractor that it's in?

example - putting a D17 engine into a WD or whatever they put them in? Do they run the RPM's of the machine the engine came from or what it goes into? -What about the 501 in a 460?
-Oliver 310 in an 88 (I think that's what it is, wrong green for me)
-Oliver 88 motor in a 77
4. I'm sure there's other questions, but seems this would answer a lot of them.

Thanks

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11-18-2005 09:58:48

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Re: Tunica in reply to jd b puller, 11-15-2005 12:51:35

HERMAPHRODITE TRACTOR: defined; A TRACTOR WITH BOTH SETS OF GENITALS.

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Spotter

11-15-2005 13:38:56

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Re: Tunica in reply to jd b puller, 11-15-2005 12:51:35

Sandbagging...have not seen much of it but would think one's driving skills might be tested, especially on a tight track. It would be nice to see statistics on how many times the horn is or is not set off during such attempts.

As for the other questions (my interpretations):

1.Yes like power block.
2.That would fit rules for Modified classes.
3.You sign in a "tractor" not a motor so RPM of the tractor model.
4.No comment (Other than where did you learn to spell hermaphrodite? I would have had to look it up in the dictionary...LOL)...
Wayne (aka.Spotter)

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jd b puller

11-16-2005 03:55:31

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Re: Tunica in reply to Spotter, 11-15-2005 13:38:56

Thanks Wayne, sounds fair to me. As for the spelling of "hermaphrodite"? I got it close then had to spell check it. I"m an injuneer, not an Englush teachr.

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Curious

11-15-2005 15:31:23

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Re: Tunica in reply to Spotter, 11-15-2005 13:38:56

You guys surely won't allow an 855 Cummins engine in a 600 case will you? I don't think that would qualify under hermaphrodite...Of course, neither should putting a 501RD in a 460...

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Wayne Perry

11-15-2005 20:23:07

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Re: Tunica in reply to Curious, 11-15-2005 15:31:23

Why complicate the simple. Tractor and motor must be of same manufacturer. That's what the rules state. I can respect the tenacity of some who would push their agenda to "run what-ever they can build" but the Tunica pull is for FarmStock and Modified classes not "Open".

AND..."fairness" is a simple matter of respecting the rules and finding a place within them where one can compete. One adapts to the rules not vice versa. We do it every day...it's called LIFE.

Wayne Perry

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SPT

11-15-2005 08:45:37

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Re: Tunica in reply to Wayne Perry, 11-14-2005 20:32:35

Hope we don"t get the fun sucked out out of it before we get started. Tire size, tractor weight, and the almighty horn levels the playing field. The guys that win are the ones who figure out how to have the most fun.
And don"t you know this is coming from the team that has more fun.

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IH SM

11-15-2005 16:27:25

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Re: Tunica in reply to SPT, 11-15-2005 08:45:37

I like SPT'S response,that is the truth. I pull against a good friend in a 6mph class. He has a 560 with a diesel 986 engine in it,i have a SUPER M. He beats me i beat him, we love the competition, then we talk after the pull to try to help each other. Thats what it is all about, where i'm from.I will be in tunica, i hope the cummings in the case will be there. LOL

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IH SM

11-14-2005 20:25:02

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Re: Tunica in reply to Curious, 11-14-2005 19:33:24

It doesn't say you can't run the 501 in a 460 in there rules.Their rules have been posted everywhere along with their dates. To late now to start a disagreement. I've been there ever year,the 501 does not always win!What about an oliver with a 1850 motor in it,is that fair? I think so.Horsepower or rpms or big cubic inches doesn't always win. I wouldn't let it scare me away.

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Curious

11-14-2005 20:41:17

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Re: Tunica in reply to IH SM, 11-14-2005 20:25:02

So a 3208 cat can run in a oliver right, whats the difference

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Brooks McCormick

11-15-2005 06:15:36

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Re: Tunica in reply to Curious, 11-14-2005 20:41:17

Go change your diaper and come back and read Wayne"s response.

You are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken *#%@!

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Rahlo

11-15-2005 21:31:44

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Re: Tunica in reply to Brooks McCormick, 11-15-2005 06:15:36

I love the way you think. Go to the pull or stop crying.

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puller44

11-15-2005 04:23:28

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Re: Tunica in reply to Curious, 11-14-2005 20:41:17

so i quess the 3208 cat was pre--1960 sure didn't know that!! put apples with apples! seems that the other brands always look at the other brand but forgets to just out pull him!

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Curious

11-14-2005 20:39:33

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Re: Tunica in reply to IH SM, 11-14-2005 20:25:02

So a 3208 cat can run in a oliver right, whats the difference

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