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future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5

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NATPA puller

10-25-2005 09:32:01




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So, how many 460's and 560's do you think we will see in div.5 this winter with NATPA? Are they all done now that they don't have their advantage? What will rule the roost now?




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Greenman

10-26-2005 21:27:38




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to NATPA puller, 10-25-2005 09:32:01  
I think most everyone knows what a pile of junk a 460/560 really is and what a bunch of a$$holes those pullers are. Why are they so afraid to let the 4010 in? Oh yeah, the binder fairies would have some competition and get their arrogant butts kicked! But just keep doing what you`re doing and have half a class like always.



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in

10-27-2005 08:03:12




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to Greenman, 10-26-2005 21:27:38  
What are you going to do when a 460 kicks a 4010 butt cry some more, its not our fault JD stuck with the 2 cylinder for 50 years.



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Greenman

10-27-2005 19:19:19




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to in, 10-27-2005 08:03:12  
I`m not going to care. At least that means you Binder fairies are getting some competition. And the 2 cylinders were from 1918 to 1960. That`s 42 years, not 50. Get it right!



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Jeff Oliver

10-26-2005 15:31:15




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to NATPA puller, 10-25-2005 09:32:01  
haven' been following NATPA for a while. What advantage did they have tha they don't now?



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Drew

10-26-2005 17:43:13




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to Jeff Oliver, 10-26-2005 15:31:15  
They are dropping from 3429 rpm to 2575 rpm.



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Jeff Oliver

10-26-2005 18:15:36




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to Drew, 10-26-2005 17:43:13  
ok I understand now, why did they change it? Too many people complaining? I remember they raised the RPM on the A-C's up last year or the year before, did they change them also?



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A.P.

10-27-2005 13:37:45




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to Jeff Oliver, 10-26-2005 18:15:36  
Jeff, I do not know about the AC's. The 460's and 560's were running 660 rpm's plus the percentage. It really put them out of line with everything else in the light div. 5 classes. Stock high idle for the 460/560 is 1981, the 660 is 2638. At 30% over it is 2575 vs 3429rpm. They can still run the high rpm but will have to swap their engine into a heavier 660 chassis. This puts them in the same class as GVI's and Case 500/600's.

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jeff Oliver

10-27-2005 13:45:24




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to A.P., 10-27-2005 13:37:45  
Ahh ok I see now. I wasn't trying to start and arguements or anything ,was just curious. Thanks for the information:)



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A.P.

10-27-2005 16:31:24




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to jeff Oliver, 10-27-2005 13:45:24  
I did not think you were trying to start an arguement. I was just trying to answer the question and cover most of the points/details.



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Nostradamus

10-25-2005 13:06:17




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to NATPA puller, 10-25-2005 09:32:01  
I predict the red guys having to do a little bit of work to keep up...They did it before the rule advantage, I'm sure they can do it after the advantage was taken away...



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You're wrong...

10-25-2005 20:20:53




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to Nostradamus, 10-25-2005 13:06:17  
I thought that it was only because they had the adavantage that they could compete...Guess it's back to Division III with the binders...



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Cotton Picker

10-25-2005 12:40:45




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 Re: future for 460/560 IH in Div. 5 in reply to NATPA puller, 10-25-2005 09:32:01  
Come to Tunica, we have a home for you, we don"t mind red tractors winning.



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