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funks conversions stock class???

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pllr

09-30-2005 18:17:09




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Looking for input, where would a funks conversion fit in, stock class, or a div III, middle class, or should they be placed in the open class, I welcome any comments...




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Ohio puller

10-03-2005 16:27:41




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to pllr, 09-30-2005 18:17:09  
About this funk conversion, 1'st of all those that say it's legal in div 2-3 had better read the rules because unless you use the stock engine with the kit ( THAT WOULD BE SMART ) it is NOT a stock block and or factory replacement. Therefore it is NOT legal. There is a guy in my area who has one with a 300 in line six and if thats ok then why can't I put a 466 in an old M with a Mike's conversion. With this kind of BS we've gone from bore and stroking an M and a power block in a John Deere to put in any engine you want too!!!!! ! It's not the fact of how it does or doesn't pull it's the fact that it's not legal and if you let it in you will really open a can of worms !!!!!

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Drew

10-02-2005 18:59:00




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to pllr, 09-30-2005 18:17:09  
I would say Div III & up. I think the people that dont want them in D-III need to suck it up, 'cuz no matter how much power they have, they are only going to go 3.5mph. Have you ever seen a V-8 that had loads of low end torque? I pull in D-III, and I say bring 'em on.



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G/MAN

10-02-2005 12:36:01




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to pllr, 09-30-2005 18:17:09  
I tend to agree with 720Deere. I've worked on a number of N-series Fords, and they're not build overly stout for the engines they came from the factory with. I had to repair an 8N once that had twisted off the drive coupler and pinion shaft when the owner caught a big rock while "ripping". Doubling the horsepower isn't going to help.



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720Deere

10-02-2005 06:10:49




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to pllr, 09-30-2005 18:17:09  
I've never seen one that would much more than move the sled, so it wouldn't really matter to me!



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Funkyford

10-02-2005 17:52:55




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to 720Deere, 10-02-2005 06:10:49  
You ever seen 1 pull that wasn't really in the middle of being put together, or are you just talking about mine that we have to pull wheels off something else and slap a draw bar on quick so there is something there to actually hook a sled to? I don't think a tractor will pull up to its capabilities without time to set it up. Than again if somebody wanted to they could just buy something like a 720 Deere and back it to a sled and not have to try to figure out the fact that the weight transfer is going to be something that will take time to figure out, not have to worry about people taking a real interest in what it is they have, or try to really be innovative will they.

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720Deere

10-02-2005 18:29:47




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to Funkyford, 10-02-2005 17:52:55  
There aren't too many people out there pulling successfully with a 720 right out of the box. They all take work and time to figure out and balance. A flathead 8 in an 8N is too much power for the weight class that they belong in. Then if you weight it down to be able to pull the motor is too much power for the drivetrain.

I don't know who you are and I'm sure not talking about you. I have seen quite a few 8Ns hooked to a sled over the years and I've yet to see one be competitive let alone take the class!

I wish you luck with your apparently on-going project. It would be neat to see one of those conversions really work out. I know a guy that built one and it will spin the wheels on concrete in high gear! Lots of power just not much tractor there to handle it.

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Ohio puller

10-01-2005 16:58:22




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to pllr, 09-30-2005 18:17:09  
A funk conversion doesn't fit in any class except an open because it's not a manufactures replacement.



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super a dude

10-03-2005 10:52:00




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to Ohio puller, 10-01-2005 16:58:22  
let them pull, if they used them off the farm like that, i say they should be able to pull....tractor pullin used to be about off the farm guys pullin...not all this factory bs



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RKM

10-02-2005 10:47:43




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to Ohio puller, 10-01-2005 16:58:22  
Neither is a power block for a John Deere.



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720Deere

10-02-2005 18:54:07




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to RKM, 10-02-2005 10:47:43  
Okay, you got one one us. A powerblock is not legal because it gives you 5 to 10 more hp, but M&W pistons and cranks are fine in a Farmall. That should only give you what 70 hp vs a JD 60 @ less than 50 hp with a powerblock. If a guy is willing to spend all that money for a powerblock why stop him? For the same amount of money the Farmalls can gain more than twice as much power and the difference can't be seen from the outside.

It sounds like rules made by somebody that's been beaten by a low hp Deere and don't want them to get equal power!

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G/MAN

10-02-2005 12:37:16




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to RKM, 10-02-2005 10:47:43  
Perfectly legal in Div. III though, aren't they?



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supermpuller

10-02-2005 17:17:29




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 Re: funks conversions stock class??? in reply to G/MAN, 10-02-2005 12:37:16  
There all over in Div.2 also, I don"t have a problem with that, let them run.



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