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Old codger

09-29-2005 10:46:56

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My memory is kind of rusty but back in 1958 in FARM JOURNAL was an article on a d 17 AC with solar panels in the hood and side covers. Ran entirely by sunlight.Does anyone know anything about it?Kind of motor etc.It as supposed to be capable of pulling a 3 bottom plow.

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Goldie

09-30-2005 08:25:50

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Re: Off topic solar powered tractor in reply to Old codger, 09-29-2005 10:46:56

I think I saw the same tractor and the idea was to put water in the tank and use solar panels to convert the water to hydrogen. Easier said than done. About ten years ago I work with an engineer who knew that guy and said he had quit experimenting with hydrogen after he blew his shop up.

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buickanddeere

09-29-2005 15:39:22

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Re: Off topic solar powered tractor in reply to Old codger, 09-29-2005 10:46:56

Charge the batteries for a week in bright summer sun shine. Plow for 15 to 30 minutes.

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John T

09-29-2005 12:08:49

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Re: Off topic solar powered tractor in reply to Old codger, 09-29-2005 10:46:56

Codger, I find it hard to believe there could exist a "totally solar powered" tractor capable of pulling itslef for any reasonable period of time, let alone pulling a plow????? ??? Maybe the solar power was just for puttign a lil charge in the battery????

The solar powered cars Ive seen are super light weight and low rolling friction and use high tech batteries and sure cant pull any load.

About the most Ive seen solar are where cells are placed on the roofs of RV's that can keep an auxiliary 12 volt battery trickle charged.

If you take a horsepower at 750 watts, that would mean say a 30 HP rated tractor would require 22,500 watts, but I think even those like 8 sf foot solar collectors are in the low watt ratings.

Im NOT saying I dont believe you, Im sayign I sure doubt that article maybe????? ?

John T, another old fashioned fuddy duddy lol

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Jim in OH

09-29-2005 11:58:36

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Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to Old codger, 09-29-2005 10:46:56

Allis-Chalmers Fuel-Cell Tractor
1959

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AC Fuel Cell

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superih

09-30-2005 05:23:42

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Re: Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to Jim in OH, 09-29-2005 11:58:36

Thats pretty neat. Its amazing what technology the agricultural companies were playing with ahead of their time. Its also too bad that large diversified companies like Allis and IH ended up not making it after dumping so much money into Reaserch and Development. Maybe thats why JD is still around. They let everyone else research and develope new ideas, then they would improve it alittle and market it better.

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buickanddeere

09-30-2005 07:25:28

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Re: Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to superih, 09-30-2005 05:23:42

There is a cry of sour grapes from a fan of a dead tractor company. IH had a wholly owned gas turbine subsidiary called Solar. It didn't cost the tractor division engineering costs from scratch for that turbine tractor.. Allis division owned an electrical generating and turbine division as well. The tractor engineers just borrowed a few fuel cells from the boys in the electrical shop down the hallway. Still out there today as "Dresser". Mother Deere has brought numerous industry 1st�s to the market. Rather than rush into production they have the test drivers engineers beat a machine to find and upgrade its week points.

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SC puller

09-30-2005 20:49:16

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Re: Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to buickanddeere, 09-30-2005 07:25:28

Look at MM and all the inivations they had for being one of the smaller tractor manufactors. There FWA was decades ahead of everyone else. To bad nobody wanted it the 50"s and 60"s.

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superih

09-30-2005 07:53:37

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Re: Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to buickanddeere, 09-30-2005 07:25:28

Oh come on. It's the gods honest truth.

What first did JD have in the 50's. A roll-o-matic narrow front. Their applauded Powershift was just an improvement on the TA of IH. John Deere was successful because they were very well managed and made some very good business decisions.

IH should have continued finding new innovations to bring to market, not sticking with an old idea like the TA which they tried marketing from 1954 until the 1980's.

The ideas that IH and AC "borrowed" from the department down the hall still cost the company as a whole money, just a rick Deere would not take.

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RustyFarmall

09-30-2005 14:28:41

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Re: Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to superih, 09-30-2005 07:53:37

Actually the JD powershift was nothing more than a warmed over Ford Select-O-Speed, and the roll-a-matic was marketed to IH first, they didn't want it.

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10-01-2005 17:03:01

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Re: Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to RustyFarmall, 09-30-2005 14:28:41

The guy who developed the select-o-speed on a Ford 6000 was the same guy who made the power-shift for JD.

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buickanddeere

09-30-2005 22:56:11

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Re: Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to RustyFarmall, 09-30-2005 14:28:41

Deere did something right. The JD Power Shift is still noted for being durable and a good shifting trans. IH kept busting T/A's. Fords Selecto Speed never worked or lasted Deere has the rollo-matic. Where is Ford and IH now? Who got beat up and is crying no fair?

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RustyFarmall

10-01-2005 04:46:24

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Re: Probably Fuel Cell not Solar in reply to buickanddeere, 09-30-2005 22:56:11

Why is Deere the THIRD largest in the world?

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