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KOM Pull at Portersville

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DC-PA

07-16-2005 19:28:50




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Hello! Just wanted to inform anybody who might remember King of the Mountain pull in Portersville , PA last yr. It is the pull that a Farmall M tractor weighed 35,000 lbs, and JD's almost that heavy. The Farmall tractor was called Longshot. Well I'm afraid it did to good last yr. They decided to make some rules this yr. Which outlawed Longshot. They were real nice to, let him know a whole 3 weeks before the pull was. Talk about short notice? Just didn't give him a chance to make any changes. So if you all wanted to see that tractor it still not 100% sure it will be there. There still might be a chance it gets ironed out, but it looks like a loosing battle. I can see them wanted to keep the pull safe, but it was a very minimal rule pull before (actually 2 rule pull). they say they just can't make an exemtion for him to pull this yr for any new guys who might come in not legal to pull. But seemed darn funny last minute notice for him. Well don't want to cause conflict, just wanted people to know from long ways off if they coming to see these tractors. At least that one might not be there. He really wanted a rematch. He did come in second last yr too. Oh well, guess it going to be just the elite members aloud to pull this yr. Thanks for letting me vent here. Sure hope this gets ironed out it would be a fun pull. Good Night all.

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Joe C From Iowa

07-20-2005 20:42:04




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to DC-PA, 07-16-2005 19:28:50  
First I would like to make a point. How much money does this pull pay? Or do you get a ribbon/trophy? It seems to be alot chatter for no money. All these guys who pull this must be teeagers or in thier twenties. Because to get this fired up over a pull that pulls once a year is pretty dare foolish! I imagine that the rules that are put into place is to keep everybody on a equal playing field. You guys and or ladies are lucky you got notice at all. You could have shown up and they could have told you sorry about your luck. Another piont to this little posting is all these people are yapping for thier favorite color of the day but, NOBODY CAN TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIER ACTIONS. Except the last guy. Thank you For those of you at home typing these little posting but continue to use a Fake name. I see someone put in a posting stating "they must be scared". From where I sit they are the one who is scared! For someone who has to hide behind a name or word must be very insecure with themselves. Or what we here in Iowa call Little Man Syndrome. And you all know just what I mean. In my final thought I guess this guy has three weeks to get this battleship ready. It would make one wonder if the Frankenstein M will be ready? What is the plan of action? I wonder if the weather will hold out on that night over in PA? You all have alot of eggs (weights) in your baskets for one night of pulling excitment. And you all are wondering what color I'm for. Well lets see last pull the oliver, Case saw some action and the time before that the F-30 and the G JD. Folks I like them all. Well rules are put into place for a reason. Everybody got to follow them with no exceptions I could write a book on getting DQed from a pull. My best advise to you all in Pa at this pull Don't fight city hall because it will burn you in the end. Joe C. from Iowa

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pullwatcher

07-21-2005 05:56:34




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to Joe C From Iowa, 07-20-2005 20:42:04  
i agree with you joe from iowa .as for the guy with the 720 he has been seen pulling other colored tractors too.he was even wearing a red hat lastyear for that pull. seems like a guy that likes to pull for fun. i think all they get is a trophey and big ego's. and get the joy of being a winner for a year.shame for all the ruccuss.it was alway fun to watch them pull at this pull compared to the regular pulls. as for safety i think they all try to be safe as they all move very slow and seem to be cautious about what they are doing out there on the track.heard there may be secuity there this year as there have some threats made sence the m was told to make his tractor legal.could be a rumor as rumor of this pull seem to keep flying. who knows?

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halfbreed m

07-19-2005 18:51:58




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to DC-PA, 07-16-2005 19:28:50  
stock tractors LOL!!!!! !!
i think if you called jd or ih and asked if it was safe to put that much weight on a tractor they would laugh at you and tell you that you were nuts so i dont think anybody can say their tractor was safer than the other. things were changed for saftey reasons and now its not legal go figure



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G-WIZ

07-19-2005 16:28:11




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to DC-PA, 07-16-2005 19:28:50  
Sounds like a lot of whinning to me. That m must not be stock parts from the factory or they would let it pull?



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pullwatcher

07-19-2005 18:00:53




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to G-WIZ, 07-19-2005 16:28:11  
can that m go pull at a regular pull and be stock, i have seen that jd720 pull at a regular pull which means that jd must be stock



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JD hauler

07-19-2005 20:21:12




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to pullwatcher, 07-19-2005 18:00:53  
Pullwatcher, no that particular M never sees the light of day at any local pulls that I have heard of or saw, it is the secret weapon that stays in a land far far away. good question though, guess that means its not legal for those pulls and the 720's are.



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another viewer

07-19-2005 20:46:54




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-19-2005 20:21:12  
I noticed that this discussion just started a few days ago. Did whoever informed the guy on the m give him time to make the neccessary changes to the tractor to make it legal if it really is illegal? Did they tell him last year that he couldn't pull it this year? From what i understand he pulls other tractors there regulary, Did they tell him at the beginning of the pulling season? Or did they just tell him a few days ago when this discussion was posted. Because the pull is only a couple of weeks away, if they did just inform him that he couldnt pull it i think its unfair and they should let him pull it this year and be notified that the tractor has to be changed for next year.

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JD hauler

07-20-2005 09:48:54




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to another viewer, 07-19-2005 20:46:54  
I have to say that first off for the guys who dont know alot of this pull, it only involves 6 or 8 tractors, it is not a big class, dead weight sled is used, full pull is 20ft, and some other rules of dead weigh pulling. I would think that the idea of tossing this guy out isnt because he was being picked on, but because it is one night per year this pull happens and it most likely has had alot of talk since the date is coming closer, nobody ever puts anything off do they? LOL, anyway, that is most likely what happened, because this guy is usually not an issure at other pull, his team just took this rig too far.

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another viewer

07-20-2005 12:49:04




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-20-2005 09:48:54  
At any rate, why not let him pull this year and then tell him he can't pull it next year? It didnt break last year. I;d love to see that big ol red tractor pull again.



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pullwatcher

07-20-2005 17:08:18




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to another viewer, 07-20-2005 12:49:04  
been talking to people i understand it that the portersville club had been contacted by other people wanting to bring modified sooped up tractors and they have no way of stopping such tractors and when being told no they bring up the f.m. tractor of lastyear being modified so i guess the people in charge had to make a decision
to make rules even if it hurt some i am sure there will be many more rules now to come for this event it is a shame it had to come to this sounds like this type of pull will be ending

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pullwatcher

07-18-2005 17:26:18




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to DC-PA, 07-16-2005 19:28:50  
do you think the could stop a tractor with detroit engine in it there was one wanting to pull that is why they had to say no to letting other tractors pull other than stock antique tractors beleave me that fellow was not happy either when he was told no portersville is an antique tractor pull 57 or older not designed for modified tractors



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JD hauler

07-19-2005 20:23:21




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to pullwatcher, 07-18-2005 17:26:18  
There is a tough super 99 with the gm diesel, it should be legal as it has pulled there on regular pulls and shows.



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JD hauler

07-19-2005 20:23:16




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to pullwatcher, 07-18-2005 17:26:18  
There is a tough super 99 with the gm diesel, it should be legal as it has pulled there on regular pulls and shows.



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Pullinmds

07-17-2005 22:58:19




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to DC-PA, 07-16-2005 19:28:50  
A Farmall M that weighed in at 35,000 lbs? Any pictures of this. I would definitely like to see it to believe it. I would have a hard time to get my Farmall MD up to 18,000 lbs. Good Luck to all the fellow pullers out there.



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JD hauler

07-16-2005 19:57:35




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to DC-PA, 07-16-2005 19:28:50  
The fact is that particular tractor was the straw that broke the trend of the pulls, somebody was finally stupid enough to weigh a farmall M to 35,000 if not more, finally some smart people had to step in and say enough is enough, if any thing breaks on any of those tractors of any color, its over for good, for all colors, and finacially detromental for the show organization, especially the way people are sue happy, so you do bring up some good points of short notice, but I really think that when you honestly look at it that the tractors who have won it in the past have weighed less and and have shown that they can win. some good tractors have won it in the past, but it seems like the green and yellow have been the most solid so far and looked safer to me than others that have participated, not trying to start a color war, but that is the cold, hard truth, so yes I will be there to see the pull, and I will support those who have supported me in the past. Good luck to all that participate in this great event.

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an observer

07-17-2005 09:24:19




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-16-2005 19:57:35  
looks to me that the green and yellow crowd is running scared. the only thing that kept the M from winning last year was a bad spot on the track.
i was personally looking forward to seeing a rematch.
so it looks like the green boys will have their fun, and sometime over the years maybe, just maybe they will regain some of the respect that they've lost from fellow pullers and fans alike!



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JD hauler

07-18-2005 14:19:42




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to an observer, 07-17-2005 09:24:19  
Just think of this, that M had had several modifications to it, axles, gears and other things that I just honestly dont know what has been done, but with a whole team in on it, they still cant get r done, Now the 720 deeres dont have any mods like that done, the design of a JD is safer, stronger and just better, that is just the truth, if it was a farmall I"d say so, I think alot of pro stock are stronger and pull better than some big JD"s, in this type of pulling the JD"s are just the ones that will win in this contest, not trying to anger anyone, just see the results for yourself.

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another viewer

07-19-2005 13:48:30




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-18-2005 14:19:42  
You know its funny. Your obviously a john deere fan more than likely one of the pullers from last year. You talk about all the mods done to that M, well i'm pretty sure all of the tractors that pulled in that pull had some sort of modifications done to them. Do you honestly think a stock tractor of any color that pulled could pull that much weight? I dont think so. I think whoever is responsible for not letting this guy pull should rethink the situation and let him pull. Besides the J.D. beat this guy last year, ARE THEY AFRAID?

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JD hauler

07-19-2005 20:39:21




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to another viewer, 07-19-2005 13:48:30  
Well in all reality, no they are not, but the JD's that pull have pulled in their respective divisions at points pull in the past, and the M cant because alot of the parts he has are not for that tractor, now you take a look at the 720's and I would await your list of what you see on those that cant be found in the JD parts catalog, they are as close to stock as you can get, sure they dont drip oil or have worn out motors, but they sure are not big stroker motors or all reamed out in that sense, so yeah, I think they are as stock as you are going to get.

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another viewer

07-19-2005 20:51:11




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-19-2005 20:39:21  
Ithink that your just making excuses now. How do you know that tractor has some big motor in it. It sounded pretty stock to me. That 450 that spun out sounded souped up. The way it loped and spun out weighing that much. If i remember correctly he did get third place.



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JD hauler

07-20-2005 20:12:59




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to another viewer, 07-19-2005 20:51:11  
Viewer, I never said the M had a big motor, I said that if you compare the 720's to the M, the M had more visible changes to it than the 720's, they all have some engine work or they would not be there, but the 720 had the right rear end and gears, tranny and such, not some road grader out fit like the m has, and the M just plain looked bad as far as too many wheel weights, just a nasty package, the whole way around, so if this ends, it really is his fault, and I really think it would brake somthing long before the 720's just due to design. Maybe they should let him try it again, but the buck has to stop somewhere, It also sounds like he isnt trying very hard to convince the rules committee to allow him, I keep seeing the arguing and not looking for a resolution, if I was him, I would be looking for a way to be in compliance rather than be the one who ends this great event once and for all. if he gets it legal then he should be allowed to run, but if he refuses, then he didnt help the problem.

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DC-PA

07-20-2005 20:34:32




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-20-2005 20:12:59  
To hard to comply and be safe in 3 weeks. That tractor was not just thrown together to pull it was designed to carry that weight. just like I hope the JD owners did. the way it is designed it will carry alot more weight then the Jd's without breaking. It might be able to be changed in 3 weeks but not safely. If it wasn't safe it would never had been pulled.



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supermpuller

07-18-2005 15:55:58




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-18-2005 14:19:42  
If you just want a JD pull just say so, safety wasn't the reason the M was DQ.



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JD hauler

07-19-2005 10:26:18




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to supermpuller, 07-18-2005 15:55:58  
Hmmm, lets see, the most weight, the weakest axle hubs, the bolted on axles to rear end housing(component tractor), just plain looked unsafe, all but had weight hanging off the muffler and steering wheel, yes it was the most unsafe unit there. Listen, not bashing, him, that team worked hard on that M, but it just isnt going to win, the line was drew in the sand and they crossed it,good try but it actually and truthfully probably has limited the how many times this pull will happen, who knows, this year may be the last for all of it.

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DC-PA

07-18-2005 14:36:29




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-18-2005 14:19:42  
Yea! It don't have all the modifications u think. It was the safest tractor there last yr. And the JD's have had 4 yrs of this to get them right to win, This was his first yr and was second and only by 5 to 6 ft. If that govenor spring didn't break it been his year.



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pullwatcher

07-18-2005 17:09:45




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to DC-PA, 07-18-2005 14:36:29  
that spring broke earlier in the pull!!! and was left to leave the track and get it fixed and was left to come back in which should of not been left happen ,once you hook to the sled and can't pull it at that time your done you lost but was aloud to come back didn't hear that guy on the jd throwing a fit



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JD hauler

07-19-2005 10:30:16




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to pullwatcher, 07-18-2005 17:09:45  
pull watcher is right, it probably shouldnt have been allowed to hold up the pull because it broke the spring, you get one shot and that should be it.



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Another viewer

07-19-2005 13:38:49




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to JD hauler, 07-19-2005 10:30:16  
I can recall a certain J.D puller get a little anxious when un hooking from the sled and trying to take off when the hook man was unhooking and you wanna talk abut unsafe? Thats all i'm gonna say before i start to get upset.



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JD hauler

07-19-2005 20:30:45




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to Another viewer, 07-19-2005 13:38:49  
Viewer, your right that is a valid point, the hooking up of the tractors does make me cringe, but everyone appoints a hook man willing to take that risk for his team, dont think its make the top ten of dangerous deeds of the day, but still risky if anything happens, I do credit the drivers with being safe, moving the tractors slowly and going to alot of effort for the event, dont know what to say, but as far as unhooking, maybe some body indicated he was unhooked and it wasnt, just dont know, but no one got hurt so on the show goes.

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Richard Pruitt

07-17-2005 10:27:50




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to an observer, 07-17-2005 09:24:19  
When is this pull? Is it Transfer Sled or Deadweight?

Thanks
Richard



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JD hauler

07-22-2005 09:26:15




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 Re: KOM Pull at Portersville in reply to Richard Pruitt, 07-17-2005 10:27:50  
August 6th sat. eve, be there by 6pm or standing room only.



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