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jeffw

02-02-2005 09:22:58




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can i put 4 1/8 piston and sleeves for a super m in a 47 m ,what is the best head to use? im thinking of using a 450 cam and head????and if the 4 1/8 pistons will work which are the best ones ....any help will be great im switching from a case 800 to a farmall m so im a little lost ..... .jeff




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ChadS

02-02-2005 12:52:39




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 Re: farmall m puller in reply to jeffw, 02-02-2005 09:22:58  
You can run 4-1/8th bore if you run the M block without sleeves, which is 4-1/8th bore. You will have a ring at the top of the block bore, from the sleeve flange left over. You can do 1 of 2 things in this case, try to run a 450 head gasket, which had a larger fire ring VS the M head gasket, or Keep your M gasket, and have rings made to fill in the gap. Super M blocks had a thick sleeve at 4 inch, which was like the 400-450 sleeve barrel diameter, just thicker cause the small 4 inch bore. 4-1/8 bore sleeves are a thin set and needs a 4.25 bore in the block, to accept the 450 sleeves. The sleeve flange diameter for the SM-450 are pretty big, In my opinion, bigger than what the M block can be machined out to fit them. Or, have the sleeve flanges machined down to fit the M sleeve specs. I do, have a good set of high compression piston set ups that are making pretty good power,,, 574-893-7437, ChadS

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ChadS

02-02-2005 16:18:47




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 Re: farmall m puller in reply to ChadS, 02-02-2005 12:52:39  
The 450 head will give you more compression VS an old M head, it has a smaller chamber, and more open intake ports which help it breathe a bit better. The 450 cam is a nice compliment to the 450 gas head, the combination of adding the two components, will gain you 5-10 hp easily, 5 hp if just bolted on, 10 if it is modified, VS a M head. The two components will help build torque, as the 450 was a bit higher rated rpm over the M, the cam profile was changed to run with the faster rpms,, and lug harder in the lower rpms of the engine. where the M, would lug at a much lower rpm, The port changes allowed the rpm increase, and breathe more efficietly, and the compression chamber built compression to add more power to its line up. Hope this helps a bit, ChadS

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ChadS

02-02-2005 16:16:11




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 Re: farmall m puller in reply to ChadS, 02-02-2005 12:52:39  
The 450 head will give you more compression VS an old M head, it has a smaller chamber, and more open intake ports which help it breathe a bit better. The 450 cam is a nice compliment to the 450 gas head, the combination of adding the two components, will gain you 5-10 hp easily, 5 hp if just bolted on, 10 if it is modified, VS a M head. The two components will help build torque, as the 450 was a bit higher rated rpm over the M, the cam profile was changed to run with the faster rpms,, and lug harder in the lower rpms of the engine. where the M, would lug at a much lower rpm, The port changes allowed the rpm increase, and breathe more efficietly, and the compression chamber built compression to add more power to its line up. Hope this helps a bit, ChadS

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ChadS

02-02-2005 16:15:11




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 Re: farmall m puller in reply to ChadS, 02-02-2005 12:52:39  
The 450 head will give you more compression VS an old M head, it has a smaller chamber, and more open intake ports which help it breathe a bit better. The 450 cam is a nice compliment to the 450 gas head, the combination of adding the two components, will gain you 5-10 hp easily, 5 hp if just bolted on, 10 if it is modified, VS a M head. The two components will help build torque, as the 450 was a bit higher rated rpm over the M, the cam profile was changed to run with the faster rpms,, and lug harder in the lower rpms of the engine. where the M, would lug at a much lower rpm, The port changes allowed the rpm increase, and breathe more efficietly, and the compression chamber built compression to add more power to its line up. Hope this helps a bit, ChadS

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