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The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale

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Ron830

01-02-2005 14:39:11

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I am selling the big bad 830 that won the 10000 in tunica in 2003. The tractor is 1156 cubes. It handles 4th ans 5th gears easy. One of a kind. Pulls 6500 lb and up. Ready to pull.. I am Building a 6 cylinder blower tractor. Serious people can call for more info and price. 217-251-4214. Thanks, Ron

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mickPULLER

01-04-2005 18:05:07

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Ron830, 01-02-2005 14:39:11

I have seen this tractor run and it ia awesome. I hear it is over 200 horse and it gives them big old 6 cylinder minnies a real good run for their money. This guy is one good engine builder and he used only the best stuff in the tractor. Durability? It will last for a long time the way it was built. I have talked to Ron and this tractor is a one of a kind set up. Lots of special custom parts and fuel system you wont find any where for sale. There is not another deere out there that can match this tractor for power. Go to a USAP pull or Tunica and watch it. I would own this Deere if I had the funds...ONE BAD DEERE!!!!

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buickanddeere

01-02-2005 17:21:23

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Ron830, 01-02-2005 14:39:11

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830 Deere?

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01-02-2005 16:25:23

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Ron830, 01-02-2005 14:39:11

What would the bore and stroke be on that big ol thing?

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8 x11.5 no text

01-02-2005 17:13:57

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Ty, 01-02-2005 16:25:23

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buickanddeere

01-02-2005 19:22:41

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to 8 x11.5 no text, 01-02-2005 17:13:57

8.0" stroke and 11.5 bore? It would have to be 11.5x8.0 to figure out correct. How one earth did you sleeve it that big and find room for that much stroke? Must have had Albert's custom 13mm pumps in there too.

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01-03-2005 18:57:32

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-02-2005 19:22:41

Carlisle Engineering in N.C. casted the blocks for the 830 going to 8" bore. I don't know what stoke he was running I'd guess 10-10.5".

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i figured

01-03-2005 06:25:26

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-02-2005 19:22:41

I figured he meant 11.5" stroke and 8" bore. If you figure that up it comes to 1156 c.i.
11.5" bore and 8" stroke comes to 1662 c.i.

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try 15mm plus

01-02-2005 21:50:28

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-02-2005 19:22:41

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JDGnut

01-02-2005 19:59:53

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-02-2005 19:22:41

They are recasing the blocks.... not sure that is what he is using... Albert is not the only one getting fuel to the two cylinder diesels..
JDGnut

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buickanddeere

01-03-2005 09:25:06

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to JDGnut, 01-02-2005 19:59:53

I wonder who is recasting blocks. And how they are keeping head gaskets in there? Maybe stepped pistons? One of my 840's due for restoration had quit with a bang. Right after a "rebuild". Funny how a complete rebuild can be a re-rining, gaskets out of a tube and all tightened down with vice grips. Anyways when pouring some preservation/anti-rust oil down the intake. The oil immediately ran out the drain plug, sob. Maybe looking for a block?

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Earl S.

01-03-2005 09:36:38

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-03-2005 09:25:06

Photo Adds last weak had a 830 unfinished block. 8 in. bore.Some guy from Ohio?I have seen the tractor it has a steel frame work made up in front of the cyl head (attached to frame) with big jack screws against the head. Earl In Illinois.

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buickanddeere

01-03-2005 12:26:04

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Earl S., 01-03-2005 09:36:38

That's one interetsing chunk of ca$t iron,thanks. Looks like it runs a dry block unless a few token coolant passages get rifle drilled out. Plus some heat soaked out via splashing the pistons with oil. And heat conducted into the head via conduction being in direct contact. Wonder why the the jack bolts were used? Was it to hold the head to the block. Or to hold the block to the crankcase? Anyone know the secret modification to dramaticaly increase the flow of 13mm injector pumps used in the JD 720,730, black dash 820,830 & 840's?

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Gpower

01-04-2005 05:28:07

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-03-2005 12:26:04

I know how to get the fuel setup to flow more fuel, but as I recall you seem to think I am "grossly overfueled"....lol. All it takes is money.

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Earl S.

01-03-2005 17:48:42

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-03-2005 12:26:04

I heard him tell a puller they had head gasket trouble until they put the jack screws against the head. I am suprised the crank can take it. I don't know if its a weld up stroker a new billet.Earl

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Paul Winter

01-03-2005 17:36:13

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-03-2005 12:26:04

I dont know of anyone at this time but Rodger Marlin 2-cylinder diesel shop was having 15mm barrels and plungers made. Iam sure columbus diesel could make as well.you cant push more fuel untill you go to larger pumps.

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Gpower

01-04-2005 05:32:11

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Paul Winter, 01-03-2005 17:36:13

I recall buying Marlins parts a few years ago, I did not get any 15mm plungers in my setup, just a solid stream of fuel out the injectors, with no spray pattern. Might have just been my bad luck though. I am not saying Marlin is a crook or anything, I was just not happy with the results of my setup. I have since started building my own setups.

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720Deere

01-04-2005 07:27:08

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Gpower, 01-04-2005 05:32:11

Gpower,

Do you have any new projects in the works since the R was sold?

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Gpower

01-04-2005 07:45:34

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to 720Deere, 01-04-2005 07:27:08

720, I have "acquired" an 820, its an early 820, but it has plenty of potential. I have a block and head off an 840...not that an 840 setup is special, but it was available. I am also working on a 830 needing a fuel setup for a local puller here. Other than that, been working and on the road. Have you been working on anything new?

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buickanddeere

01-05-2005 12:00:09

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Gpower, 01-04-2005 07:45:34

How much of that 840 is left? Feeding 1156 cu" is different than fueling an 416 cu" R or a 471 cu" 80/820/830/840. The 15mm may supply 133% of a 13mm system capacity. And 225% of a 10mm pump capacity. 13mm pumps with late 820/830/840 tips can supply enough fuel to make an R loose HP. There comes a point when adding more fuel doesn't add power from combustion. After the O2 is gone, the extra fuel may add some pressure just by flashing from liquid to vapour from the heat. Eventually more fuel will cool the combustion chamber and drop pressure. About the only other "small" diesel I can think of that has a cam lobe operated diesel injector pump is the Detroit two stroke. Did somebody swap something 15mm dia out of there?

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Gpower

01-05-2005 12:15:49

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to buickanddeere, 01-05-2005 12:00:09

I have a block, head, cam, pistons, rods, fuel system and other parts off it. I know of 3-4 840's than are good parts candidates. What are you needing?

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buickanddeere

01-05-2005 22:04:29

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Gpower, 01-05-2005 12:15:49

Entire fuel system tranfer, high pressure pumps, injectors, steering linkages, cover for the steering box at the operator's station, hood sheet metal, entire pulley/clutch. I have almost enough stuff here to make one tractor but the sheet metal is dinged up. One tractor is the 2nd 1961 model year unit built. The other was as an engineering test bed, then sold as new. Kind of hesitiate to scrap either one.

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720Deere

01-04-2005 12:41:37

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Gpower, 01-04-2005 07:45:34

No new projects for me. I'm 2 years into the 720 and my limited budget will probably stretch it out another 2 years before it is done. I spend way too much money pulling to ever get ahead.

Once the 720 gets totally restored, I think the next one will be an 830. My brother currently has an 80 that I feel has alot of potential. We haven't done anything more than open the rack a little and it easily dynos to 80 hp. The way you guys pumped that R up, I would think that the 80/820/830 could easily reach 100 hp without stroking, etc.

Keep us updated on the 820 progress. We need to see more pictures of your pullers being grossly overfueled!

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JDGnut

01-04-2005 10:17:37

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Re: The tough 830 From Tunica For Sale in reply to Gpower, 01-04-2005 07:45:34

I got a name for the 820... LOL... "Grossly Overfueled"

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