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Same thing for the M's too!

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ChadS

10-13-2004 09:14:54




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Ih changed the cyl heads in the M in late 51, and when the super M came out, they had the same head castings as the 400-450, and had the same features I mentioned about the H-350 heads. New style M heads, the best ones were the 8060DD, Which, just like the H, had the extra "D" in the casting number to determine it was a later model cyl head design with the old casting number, before they changed the casting numbers for the 400. They were found on the Super M (8060dd) Compared to the 400-450 (362174r) were identical castings. Just the older casting number. "D" is the older heads, DD is the newer casting, and the "R" codes on the heads were the latest model cyl head. ChadS

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DWV

10-13-2004 17:39:47




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 Re: Same thing for the M's too! in reply to ChadS, 10-13-2004 09:14:54  
Chad not saying you're right or wrong,just asking questions to learn.If a 8060DD and 362174
head are the same,why does the 8060DD and 8060DC
ETC. use the same valves and 362174 use shorter valves? Not sure about change in 51,worked on several SM with correct date code most 1953 and 8060DC heads.Also I think 8574DC is near same head as 8060DD. Thanks Dave



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ChadS

10-14-2004 08:48:33




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 Re: Same thing for the M's too! in reply to DWV, 10-13-2004 17:39:47  
All of the 8060, and like heads do have the same valve length, longer than the newer head. So, yes a correction from my post. The compression chamber design, and ports are more open and straight thru, like the newer heads. Also, when the firecrater pistons came out, the older heads could not use them, unless, the heads were ground out to make them clear the pistons. So, a casting change was in order. Now, in answer to why the valve length did not change in the 8060s in the later years, and this is just a guess,, the Super M, came out in early 52, IH never changed the valves in any of the heads until 53-54. First one to have a valve length change was the super H. After that, then they started doing the same modifications for the Super M getting ready to make the MTA, and 400. I guess I can also say is that the years I stated for the heads are off by 2 years,, Forgetting that there was one more model inbetween the super M, and the 400, and that was the MTA. Which would probably be where to find the older casting # with the better flow design and chamber. Most better parts I have found came from the 52-56 production years. Possibly the 8574D is the late head before the 362174?? ChadS

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DWV

10-15-2004 05:34:44




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 Re: Same thing for the M's too! in reply to ChadS, 10-14-2004 08:48:33  
I goofed to should have said longer valves for
362174 R1 instead of shorter.



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