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smta 4.310 bore stock carb

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Kevin

05-05-2004 18:52:48




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I just rebuilt my motor and put a Denny's 4.310 over bore kit in, no stoking. The tractor runs great. Just wondering if it is getting enough fuel? I read another post that said if you open the main jet adustment all the way with the throttle at full speed and it dosen't bog or run to rich then your not getting enough fuel \. Anyone?




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Wild Horses

05-06-2004 10:24:25




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 Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to Kevin, 05-05-2004 18:52:48  
My M is 307 ci (4 3/16 x 5 1/4) about the same as yours. I finally got a carb that will feed it. It didn't take all that much. It will run off the stock carb, but starves out when it bears down. Open up all the jet holes with a 1/16 drill bit. Now mine'll overcome the disk brakes in fourth at half throttle. (thats the poor boys way to testing)



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Kevin

05-07-2004 20:10:50




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 Re: Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to Wild Horses, 05-06-2004 10:24:25  
Cool, do you mean drill the metering stem holes in te bottom or just the main jet?



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ChadS

05-06-2004 06:00:05




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 Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to Kevin, 05-05-2004 18:52:48  
Right. if it does not run rich, or lope from too much fuel, you are not getting enough. Here is something to look at, plug color. When you dyno, or work the engine, you need a nice cocoa brown plug color, it can be a bit darker in color, but that to me is the general rule of thumb. White plugs, are too lean, black plugs are too rich, if you are not getting enough fuel, measure how big the main jet is by finding the drill bit that fits perfectly in the jet, then, drill out the bottom 2 holes in the metering stem in the bowl of the carb to match the main jet size. the metering stem is just what it is, it meters how much fuel enters the venturi. and adjust it through the main jet adjustment. Chad

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Kevin

05-07-2004 20:32:21




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 Re: Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to ChadS, 05-06-2004 06:00:05  
I have a blow up of the sm carb there's a #26 1 packing, main metering needle valve, do I have to drill it to? On the #46 1 jet main discharge do you call that the metering stem? If so I see the three small little holes on the bottom, and you say to drill out the bottom two. I bought the tune-up kit for the carb and i don't recall replacing or seeing the #26 main needle valve?



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ChadS

05-07-2004 21:44:16




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 Re: Re: Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to Kevin , 05-07-2004 20:32:21  
Kevin, #26, is the fiber packing that keeps fuel from leaking out of the fitting and the adjustment screw, (#24) as you look into the bowl of the carb where the adjustment goes into the jet, it is made of brass, that is #27, the older carb kits had the option of rejetting to a little bigger to give it a bit more power. Best advice I can give you is to go to the hard ware, find a bit that fits intot he main jet, and buy 4-5 sixes bigger drill bit. drill the main jet to that size, #46 is what I call a metering stem, only drill the bottom 2 holes in the stem, and use the same bit you drilled the main jet. Clean out the shavings, finish rebuilding the carb. You should be able to back the adjustment screw out and make it smoke, or lope from too much fuel, at full throttle, if it does, just turn the adjustment till it smooths out, but still has just a bit of smoke when the throttle is cracked. Another way to check to see if you have the fuel right is to look at the plugs, I like to see a cocoa brown color in the plugs, whitish means not enough fuel, or lean, black meands rich, too much fuel. Chad

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Kevin

05-10-2004 06:54:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to ChadS, 05-07-2004 21:44:16  
Sorry, so is the top of the metering stem the main jet?



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Kevin

05-07-2004 20:13:10




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 Re: Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to ChadS, 05-06-2004 06:00:05  
Do I drill the top of the metering stem out to?



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Kevin

05-06-2004 07:00:14




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 Re: Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to ChadS, 05-06-2004 06:00:05  
Thank-you very much! I'll definately try that.



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ChadS

05-06-2004 07:14:35




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 Re: Re: Re: smta 4.310 bore stock carb in reply to Kevin , 05-06-2004 07:00:14  
I had a 306 denny M in here not too long ago and tuned it up, had it all, header, ignition, carb, and an 8060 head. the head, and the header is the downfall on this particular engine, low compression, and too big of a manifold and carb venturi size to get good efficiency. it had about 150 psi of compression, 72 hp. which really, is not bad at all for a bore job, and no stroker, if you pushed the envelope, and really pushed the compression up, maybe a LP head, and Lp intake, you might see a higher hp number in there, Only problem I seen with the engine is that it was hard blocked, it was a 248 M block, and that is not a good block to use for large bores. the 264-281 blocks are better in my opinion, easier to get the 4.310 bore in it with out sacraficing longivity, Chad

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