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W-9 Hop Up.

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Joe Evans

04-26-2004 06:41:17




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This is my first post on the pulling forum--figured this is where the information is.

I bought a nice W-9 at auction last August at a consignment auction. The seller had a few other IH tractors there, and some had been modified for pulling. There was no readily apparent modifications for pulling done to the W-9--it looked basic stock, etc.

The rear tire lugs looked odd to me. I thought at first the tractor had seen a lot of road time cupping the lugs, but they didn't quite look that type of wear. A subseqent conversation with a local pulling guy, who does some tire cutting, pointed out that the lugs had been cut for pulling.

Some gas had leaked from the float bowl of the W-9 peeling off some paint from the block exposing a tan-colored primer. Apparently this motor had been rebuilt. As good as it runs, this seems logical.

Last weekend, my brother strapped my W-9 to our Club's load test fan. I was not there for this, but the following morning my brother was all geeked-up about how fast the W-9 was able to run the fan--as fast or faster than anything he's seen yet thus far. He's claiming there's a monster lurking beneath the hood of the W-9, and we don't know it.

Questions: if a puller was going to warm-up a W-9 engine, what would he do within reason? I suppose it's logical to slip 4.5" pistons and sleeves in the block taking it to 350 CID. Beyond that would would it be? Planing the deck/head? Hi-comp pistons? What might be the HP gains from these modifications?

I have had no success in contacting the seller to find out what he may have done to this motor.

Now I can't wait to hook the W-9 up to pullin sled.

Thanks Joe Evans

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Texas Red

04-28-2004 03:08:55




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 Re: W-9 Hop Up. in reply to Joe Evans, 04-26-2004 06:41:17  
Joe, One of easest things to do is to use the bottom half of an 806 carb on the w9 carb, up the RPMs. Ballance is the key. I have a stock W9 and have done the same. Last saterday at our pull i had 800 lbs on my deck and 200 on side brackets. Pulling dead weight, was pulling over 13,000 out the gate. On my last pull, it pulled the same weight out in 2 nd gear. I was real happy with the old girl. TR

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Joe Evans

04-28-2004 05:44:34




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 Re: Re: W-9 Hop Up. in reply to Texas Red, 04-28-2004 03:08:55  
Thanks for the info. Now I just need to find out how to identify a bottom half of an 806 carb. This may well be what the seller had done.

As far as RPM goes, I have no idea what it's turning. It sounds 'normal' to me at full throttle and no load.

When the W-9 was on the test fan, a buddy wanted to throw a tach on the fan shaft, but my brother told him not to bother. Wish he had tached it. That would be a very concrete indicator of the engine performance. My brother said that the W-9 was belted to the smaller of the two fan pulleys, and the fat beast still had more throttle to go. They had to shut done the show--the fan was beginning to shake, rattle and roll it was turning so fast. I'm telling you, that fan is a real killer. To have the W-9 running on the smaller pulley with more poop left...

I have seen a good Super M belted to the bigger pulley and cry for mercy at an indicate fan RPM of 430. We had the W-9 on a prony brake last fall, and was able to get an indicated 50 BHP registered. I was not there for this, but my brother told me that the flat belt had a funky splice and was not allowing the W-9 a good grip. The belt was faltering at 50 BHP. Again, my brother said the W-9 had more poop in it. Who knows what we could have registered on the brake.

So I'm going to get into some Club pulls where there will be a transfer sled. You seem to have confirmed my opinion that I need to run in 2nd gear. I pulled the -9 one time on a drag sled. It simply ran out of traction. Had to run in 1st gear--the sled nazis wouldn't let me run in 2nd. Too much speed they said.

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Texas Red

04-28-2004 14:56:43




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 Re: Re: Re: W-9 Hop Up. in reply to Joe Evans, 04-28-2004 05:44:34  
I just bought a hand held tack and took the stock RPMs and ran it up 10%. I rebuild the gov. because it was serging. It took me 4 years to get it right but now the old girl is a ball to pull with. on the 806 carb i bought the chock lever is on the back side of the carb, so you have to work the choke wire backwards.



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