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What are people doing with 70's these days?

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JD 70

04-05-2004 22:55:39




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Pullers,

I am in the same posistion that Old G is; not know what some of my options are, and looking at the cost.

I own a 70D, decent shape farm tractor. This is not used on the farm, and I hate to let it sit. What are people doing with these as far as mods? Are they better then a G to work on? I know it is a heavy best, so weight reduction would have to be looked at, but what can I do. Give me some options. I am a fan of Pork and Beans, and want to contact them.. I have also seen a Two Cylinder Diesl Shop in the hook that I should contact. I am motivated to build a good good puller, money and time are going to be looked at... but this is going to be a good hobby for me to get into.

Pleas keep in mind that I really do want to run the 70. Its kinda my trade mark around here.

Thanks for your help.

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Jed

04-15-2004 11:09:15




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 Re: What are people doing with 70's these days? in reply to JD 70, 04-05-2004 22:55:39  
I have got a friend with a 70. He has dumped about $12k into it. D9 Cat pistons ,etc. It still won't out pull a good Farmall M. Most guys in Western , Pa. won't even bother with a 70. You just don't see them in pulls here.There are some awesome G's around though. As far as A's , 630's and 730's they don't seem to pull well.



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buickanddeere

04-07-2004 14:08:15




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 Re: What are people doing with 70's these days? in reply to JD 70, 04-05-2004 22:55:39  
Properly set-up a stock or near stock 70G is very competive in the 6500-7000lb class. The harder the track the better.



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PeteNY

04-07-2004 19:31:38




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 Re: Re: What are people doing with 70's these days in reply to buickanddeere, 04-07-2004 14:08:15  
Very Competitive yes...in that we beat the other 70's, the Red tractors, and the G's, but I have been beat on 3 different occasions by weighted up late model A's, not by much, but almost only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes!



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PeteNY

04-06-2004 15:46:35




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 Re: What are people doing with 70's these days? in reply to JD 70, 04-05-2004 22:55:39  
70, Depends on how much you want to build it...ours is a gas, bone stock other than a 45 thousandths over bore, and we like 'em stock. Problem is, once ya get 'em heavy enough to pull, you're pullin' against 720's which are over 1000lbs heavier and have more HP. If ya keep 'em light, a stong late A weighted up will beat it. We are picky about where we take ours...(we go to pulls where mustly red shows up, cause they'll beat most weighted up Super M's in Div. 1). Pete

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upperpinecreek

04-06-2004 12:19:30




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 Re: What are people doing with 70's these days? in reply to JD 70, 04-05-2004 22:55:39  
i have a l955 70D redone for pulling, be glad to talk with you about it. My e-mail is [email protected] if you would like to e-mail me your phone number.



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G-MAN - oops...

04-06-2004 07:37:30




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 Re: What are people doing with 70's these days? in reply to JD 70, 04-05-2004 22:55:39  
I was thinking 70 spark-ignition. Sorry about that...



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DeereDiesel

04-06-2004 06:53:04




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 Re: What are people doing with 70's these days? in reply to JD 70, 04-05-2004 22:55:39  
To get power, you can swap to 730 pistons, injectors, and pumps, as well as a few other tricks. The 70 has a higher first gear than the other numbered series (2.5mph), but with a little extra power that shouldn't matter. The two-cylinder diesel shop's reputation tends to vary depending on who you talk to. I have heard nothing but good things about Albert at Reinassance Tractor (see Green or T-C Mag). As for weight, a manual steering unit from a 70 is not that hard to find, since those built before 1954 didn't have power steering at all, and it was optional after that. The rear cover off a 70 standard that doesn't have a rockshaft will fit right on your row crop, gas, diesel, or otherwise. For a few extra coins, you can either get the electric starting setup from a 730, or buy one aftermarket and save a lot of weight. On the plus side, its pretty hard to beat the torque and luggability of a deere diesel if it is set up right.

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G-MAN

04-06-2004 05:33:43




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 Re: What are people doing with 70's these days? in reply to JD 70, 04-05-2004 22:55:39  
They're more complicated than a "G", particularly if they have power-steering and live PTO, so they're not going to be easier to work on. The power-steering pedestal is a serious chunk of iron, so that's going to be a hindrance when trying to get one light. As far as the engines, unless it's an all-fuel, they're smaller in displacement than a "G". But, if it's a late all-fuel, LP or gas tractor, you have the benefit of duplex carburetion, which makes tuning easier and more accurate. They're strong tractors, so I think I'd concentrate on making it run good for heavier classes, instead of lightening up. There are a lot of light "G"s out there that can't stay hooked up in the classes they lightened up for, and don't start performing until they get up to the weights they should be pulling at anyway. I can't image a 70 would be much different.

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