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RAT

11-12-2003 16:53:30

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Any one out there running murpheys roller rockers and are they worth the money

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11-12-2003 19:14:45

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Re: Roller Rockers in reply to RAT, 11-12-2003 16:53:30

They are a touch better than stock nothing gained at the fulcrum , actually you lose the babbit or bronze bushing that was in the factory unit the tip is nothing more than a dowel pin and drill bushing, If you want to make a change use Thomson shaft,needle bearings at the fulcrum and the tip.

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Flogger

11-13-2003 04:47:38

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Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to LW, 11-12-2003 19:14:45

Yep I bought a set 5 years ago and was a little disappointed they didn't have needle bearings on the shaft, and I had to use the adjusting screws from the stock rockers. I reckon they are good for a tad more lift and they're a little easier on the valve stems. Easier than swapping cams anyway.

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820puller

11-13-2003 15:45:55

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Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to Flogger, 11-13-2003 04:47:38

3000 rpm or less. what do you need needle bearings for. before you open your mouth you ought to look at the price of a good needle bearing.do you really want to spend the xtra money.oh bye the way i picked up 12hp on my 606 ci jdg.$300 is pretty cheap for a gain like that.they are flawless. if you could build better ones why didn't you. have a good day

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11-14-2003 16:03:34

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to 820puller, 11-13-2003 15:45:55

I do build better ones thank you , I build the best that money can buy , 7075 Fortal , full complement needles 63 Rockwell Shaft,Needle's on the tip also and yes they do cost more that than the ones that you are talking about I have more in materials than they sell them for!

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G-MAN

11-17-2003 10:45:19

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to LW, 11-14-2003 16:03:34

So how much extra horsepower are your rockers worth over the Murphy's units? I'm well aware of the benefits of full roller rockers, but is there enough of a performance and reliability gain to justify the extra cost?

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Flogger

11-14-2003 04:38:46

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to 820puller, 11-13-2003 15:45:55

Well Mr 820puller I was just saying that compared to what Crane or Comp Cams gets for a set of their high end rockers these seem a might costly. I have run a set for 5 years and have no regrets, but they were one of the more expensive things I did to the motor. I do appreciate your insight and knowlege though, and you keep that big deere a poppin.

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richard

11-14-2003 13:18:43

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to Flogger, 11-14-2003 04:38:46

these rockers i gotfrom murphy look just like what you would buy from crane or anybody else for a small block or big block mopar they are just so much bigger. i don'tknow what the quality was 5 years ago

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CASEPOWER

11-13-2003 20:19:38

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to 820puller, 11-13-2003 15:45:55

I have seen LW's rockers and he does build better ones. I see you pull a G so how would you know what 3000 rpms was like??

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richard

11-14-2003 13:06:43

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to CASEPOWER, 11-13-2003 20:19:38

used to run in the 8.90 class in nhra. 612 ci mopar 8700rpm. would you like to know anything else. if you are curius i ran jeselrocker arms. they are thecrem of the crop.

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11-14-2003 16:05:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to richard, 11-14-2003 13:06:43

I had a truck I drove on the street that pulled better times than that!

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G-MAN

11-17-2003 10:47:23

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to LW, 11-14-2003 16:05:20

You had a street-driven truck that ran 8.90s in the 1/4 mile? I highly doubt it. Maybe in the 1/8 mile. Are you confused here?

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richard

11-14-2003 16:20:25

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to LW, 11-14-2003 16:05:20

first question? how much would it cost for a set of these fancy rockers for a 2 cyl deere an second question is i think you are getting pi$$ed off an third it isn't very smart to bash on a competitors products.do you advertise in hook mag.the pulling world would like to know just who you are.

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11-14-2003 20:04:12

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to richard, 11-14-2003 16:20:25

#1. I didn't bash anyones product, I stated the facts and did not post anything about what I build till you called me out talking junk because I have plenty of work,and they are not a competive product when the only thing that is similar is the basic mis-leading name( IE. when something justs pivots it does not roll) and finally I ain't pissed just stating the facts and I don't build parts for 2cyl deeres if I did the extra power would make those shake and bakes come apart!LOL

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richard

11-15-2003 09:47:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to LW, 11-14-2003 20:04:12

i am putting together a big ih m.give me a price for a set of these rockers to fit on it.what will igain running these rockers. i am politely asking you.

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11-16-2003 04:10:05

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Roc in reply to richard, 11-15-2003 09:47:39

I email-ed you

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Tyler Neff

11-14-2003 20:10:53

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to LW, 11-14-2003 20:04:12

Why dont you build parts for the so called Shake and Bakes?

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Scott

11-14-2003 20:10:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to LW, 11-14-2003 20:04:12

L.W. I have a G John Deere and would like to talk to you about your roller rockers. I'm currently running the Murphy's and cant say anything but good about them. How ever if yours will help I woould be interested in trying a set of them. Scott Boehler

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CASEPOWER

11-14-2003 19:15:51

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to richard, 11-14-2003 16:20:25

It's easy! Just come to NC and see who is winning and you will know who he is. How could LW begin to compete with the prices when he refuses to cut corners and put out a non-performing product. I will say it again if someone just wants to spend money theres many places to do that. If they want to win and want there tractor right then they can talk to LW.

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reddog

11-13-2003 16:00:00

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to 820puller, 11-13-2003 15:45:55

LW makes rockers with needle bearings at shaft and tip .

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Cody

11-13-2003 18:43:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to reddog, 11-13-2003 16:00:00

Who is LW and how do I get intouch with them?

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CASEPOWER

11-13-2003 20:17:30

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to Cody, 11-13-2003 18:43:15

LW is Wilsons Machine shop in West End NC. He has done quite a bit of work for me and everything he has done has been perfect. He builds some of, if not the baddest tractors in NC. If you want something done right he's your man. If you just want to spend money call denny's. I will try to hunt up his #.

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Tyler Neff

11-14-2003 20:00:41

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to CASEPOWER, 11-13-2003 20:17:30

Im still waiting on LWs price on those rockers. Doesnt make much since coming on here running your mouth if you cant back it up!

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11-14-2003 20:12:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to Tyler Neff, 11-14-2003 20:00:41

If you have to ask you can't afford it.Look at the post and I think you will see I didn't do anything other then speak the truth if you can't handle it don't read the post!

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Tyler Neff

11-14-2003 20:29:23

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Rockers in reply to LW, 11-14-2003 20:12:37

I asked u a ? pu@#y r u gonna answer or just sit there and brag about how good your s@#t is?

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11-15-2003 07:26:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller Roc in reply to Tyler Neff, 11-14-2003 20:29:23

You boys sure get bent out of shape, I wouldn't do work for someone with your attitude,I don't do bolt on pieces for the masses I will do a top end like the cam,lifters, head,rockerstands the shaft , the rocker, the pushrods, I get all the geometry right and get everything working together,Just like when I did a lot of drag car work I didn't do 5.0 mustangs atleast not the ones with the bolt on garbage.If I put a price on here all you would do is critisize and talk crap when your not aware of the amount of work that I would want to go through to get everything right I won't just do a set of rockers for someone I will do the entire assembly all the valvetrain.This protects me from doing a part and selling it to someone then they do something like change deckheight or valve length and screw things up I don't want to do work for someone unless I can guarantee results.

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Tyler Neff

11-15-2003 11:37:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller in reply to LW, 11-15-2003 07:26:15

That was a good answer? Im starting to calm down a little. Somtimes ya get people on here that just wanna blow off about how good there parts are.Rarley do you get somebody who knows anything.PLEASE accept my apology.

Tyler

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820puller

11-15-2003 10:07:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Roller in reply to LW, 11-15-2003 07:26:15

this is the reply i was waiting for. the average joe will not pay the price you would want. this is not big time tractor pulling. nobody on here pulls with runnin bare or silver bullit(unlimited alky superstocks) where you have fat wallets.

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supermpuller4

11-15-2003 10:50:55

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ro in reply to 820puller, 11-15-2003 10:07:39

I've seen a lot of 20 thousands dollars plus motors running in antique classes, you get what you paid for, unless Denny's had anything to do with it.

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