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john

09-16-2003 06:14:15




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What if anything has anybody used to replace the heavy cast radiator in a styled "A" John Deere?? Any thoughts or input would be appreciated.




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A puller

09-17-2003 13:38:13




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 Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to john, 09-16-2003 06:14:15  
John I have seen styled a's running an automotive radiator setup. You have a lot of room under the sheet metal to do things with. You will have to fabricate you own brackets and adapters to go from the 2.75 Deere hose to whatever auto radiator you use. Some will also run an electris fan instead of the fan shaft(saves some weight).We run an unstyled A with an electric fan setup this works very good. Cant seen to come up with a radiator that will look like the unstyled ones that is lighter. Good luck with some fabrication you can realy lighten them up.

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JDGnut

09-16-2003 19:01:03




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 Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to john, 09-16-2003 06:14:15  
It will work.. but U will have to add an electric water pump... usually the inlets and outlets are too small to let enough coolant pass without the pump... The oliver Rads are popular.... JDGnut



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ChadS

09-16-2003 19:14:24




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 Re: Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to JDGnut, 09-16-2003 19:01:03  
Could a factory water pump from a late A-60 help out any in this case??. Chads



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Chads

09-16-2003 07:28:36




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 Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to john, 09-16-2003 06:14:15  
Years back, at a NATPA regional pull, I seen a JDG with A radiator and sheet metal, maybe a JDB might work with a little persuasion???? Just my opinion, ChadS



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john

09-16-2003 07:33:54




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 Re: Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to Chads, 09-16-2003 07:28:36  
The "B" is still pretty heavy. I have a radiator out of a 70 Oliver that physically will fit but the hose inlet/oulet connections are quite small. I don't know if a reduction would hurt the thermo-siphon cooling or not. I suppose I could cut the small ones off and put bigger inlets/outlets on...maybe.



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ChadS

09-16-2003 07:37:46




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 Re: Re: Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to john, 09-16-2003 07:33:54  
I would say that a good radiator shop could switch the ports around. As long as the radiator that you use is a gravity flow, and not pressureized, it could be done. What are the measurements you are looking for?? Is it a late A?? Chads



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john

09-16-2003 08:05:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to ChadS, 09-16-2003 07:37:46  
It is a '42, 18" by 21"



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Chads

09-16-2003 08:18:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to john, 09-16-2003 08:05:26  
I have a few older JD A's for parts, I have about 30 different radiators to try. What is the bolt pattern measurement, or would it matter, how much room do you have on the frame to mount the radiator?? I will look at the A's I got and try to see if one will be close to fitting, serious, no joke, I will see what I can come up with. Sounds like an interesting afternoon project. Will post this info later. These guys and gals here at YT are very intellegent, If I could not help you someone else here at YT, has done this before.. Later, Chads

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ChadS

09-16-2003 09:54:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: lightweight A radiator in reply to Chads, 09-16-2003 08:18:13  
Being the Binder man I am, I tried a Farmall H radiator. The fron frame where the radiator bolts on to the bolster is 18in across, the Ajd is 18 1/2 in. across. the H radiator measures 24inches tall and 18 wide. The top hose of the H radiator is in the center of the tank, the bottom hose is on the left side of the tractor. You would have to make hoses to adapt the small hose from the H, to the large hose on the A, or make a custom plate that bolts on to the head and use a piece of pipe the same size as the H hose. The steering shaft will clear the top of the H radiator, you have about 2 inches of clearence, you could move the radiator up 1 1/2 inches or make a longer filler neck to come out the top of the A hood. Could work, with some time and patience. Hope this helps, ChadS

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