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Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair

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Orville Hill

05-02-2008 12:39:20




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Just a word of caution, we were recently supplied with some parts from J&S Repair of Lapeer, Michigan for a tall-deck Dart Block. Supposedly, Bob, who we believe is the owner of the company (and apparently pulls under the tractor named "Wild Child"), had put all the parts together a rotating assembly "to be sure everything was right". Upon arrival back at our shop in Florida (drove all the way to Michigan to trade with him), we found that almost all of the parts were wrong. He first tried to tell us that there is only one Chevrolet motor, so we don't know what we're talking about, then told us that we didn't tell him it was a tall-deck, which we did. I have spent thousands of dollars getting the right parts from companies like Jeg's and Summit, all of which fit perfectly as soon as they came in, unlike his parts, so hmmmm, what do you think? After 42 calls the past 3 days, where he refused to pick up the phone, I finally got an answer from Jim there today, who basically told me to get lost.

Just consider this fair warning, we found out too late, hope you all don't have that problem, we would have sure appreciated a warning.

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Damp;Dservice

05-07-2008 20:13:27




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Orville Hill, 05-02-2008 12:39:20  
[quote="Gearnut"](reply to post at 12:15:47 05/07/08) [/quote
Have never seen a tall deck 454, dart and merlin are two different builders, standard block and tall deck difference is just over 1/4 inch



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Gearnut

05-14-2008 16:45:14




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Damp;Dservice, 05-07-2008 20:13:27  
Thanks for the clairification on the 1/4 inch! When I say tall deck 454, I mean in the aftermarket... not factory, as he is speaking of the aftermarket Dart block.. and you are correct the Merlin block is from World Castings and Dart is Dart, my mistake.



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Charlie Capozzo

05-03-2008 16:46:54




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Orville Hill, 05-02-2008 12:39:20  
We have known and dealt with Bob over 30 years and he has always been more than fair with us and has always gone out of his way to help us out.



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james rumph

05-02-2008 20:00:23




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Orville Hill, 05-02-2008 12:39:20  

jUsT a ThOuGhT.

yOUR GRAMMER SKILLS are awful.

The gentelmen is expressing his dislike with a builder. Not everyone has the skills and knowledge on how to assemble a motor.

So keep your B.S to your self it"s not needed, unless your the engine builder in question.

If you are be man enough to use your correct name and do explain.

It"s to bad there isn"t more perfect people like you .

James Rumph

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ricky c

05-02-2008 16:03:13




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Orville Hill, 05-02-2008 12:39:20  
CALL THE LOCAL SHERIFFS OFFICE AND EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO THEM AND HAVE ALL RECIEPTS. OHIO POLICE DONT PLAY WHEN IT COMES TO FRAUD. THIS MAY HELP HIM TO HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART.



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uh yeah

05-02-2008 18:55:50




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to ricky c, 05-02-2008 16:03:13  
Ricky, You must have dealt with a different Sherrif's office than I did. Had a guy screw me (essentially stole) about 10k from me. Ohio Cops claimed it was a "Civil matter" and they couldn't get involved. Tried for a year to get them to do something. Fortunately it happened across state lines so I got my state involved. Within 3 weeks, they issued a warrant and had him arrested, extradited and tried. Naturally, he got a suspended sentance, and returned to Ohio where he proceeded to jump probation.

If there are any wanna be bounty hunters out there in the Chillicothe area, maybe we could work something out for his "safe return".

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Just a thought

05-02-2008 15:46:12




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Orville Hill, 05-02-2008 12:39:20  
Maybe you should have looked at parts before you left michigan, on a 1000 mile trip, then you would have know you was getting screwed, im sure bashing him on the web is going to make things right, if you knew what you wanted why didnt you just build it yourself, im sure there is machine shops in florida, then you would have had what you wanted and would of had somebody else build something for you.

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Zeus

05-02-2008 16:15:13




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Just a thought, 05-02-2008 15:46:12  
Why dont you shut-up



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just a thought

05-02-2008 17:41:12




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Zeus, 05-02-2008 16:15:13  
why cause i had a good point, and you dont, if i sold part to a guy 1000 miles away i would make sure i was selling what he wanted, on the other hand if i was buying, i wouldnt drive to michigan get parts, and then drive all the way back home to see what i got. if he built his own engine unstead of buying from somebody he didnt know, then he wouldnt have this problem anyway



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just a thought

05-02-2008 18:30:53




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Zeus, 05-02-2008 18:27:35  
na, im more of a McCain, guy, i dont thing a terrorist or a beaver needs in the white house



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c35

05-02-2008 13:43:09




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to Orville Hill, 05-02-2008 12:39:20  
If you paid with credit card you would have 30 days to complain and get satisfaction. Number for this is on back of your credit card usually.



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ntpa puller

05-02-2008 18:22:02




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to c35, 05-02-2008 13:43:09  
we've bought many part from bob over the years and never got screwed (never) some of the part where well used but they where what we paid for.



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Gearnut

05-07-2008 12:15:47




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 Re: Warning about unethical parts supplier--JS Repair in reply to ntpa puller, 05-02-2008 18:22:02  
HI ! I don't know Bob, and I don't know the author of this thread... so I have no dog in this fight. Given that, I'd love to know more about the situation. You made a very passionate statement concerning your situation.

You said you were dealing with a "rotating assembly". In my mind, that is the block, crankshaft, rods and pistons and possibly camshaft. You said you were dealing with a tall deck block. You said the parts were "wrong".

I'd like to know specifically what was wrong ?

You made some reference to it being a "tall deck", and Bob didn't know it was a tall deck, but you told him it was a tall deck.

Given that, and given your reference to the parts being "wrong", I would assume the problem has something to do with deck height and compression distance ?

The deck height difference (between a tall deck and normal deck block) is considerable, nearly 1/2 inch if my memory serves me correctly. If you are dealing with a 454 stroke (4.25 inch), the compression height for those pistons is 1.647. For a 454 tall deck block, the piston compression height is 2.040 to accomodate the taller deck height.

That's a whopping difference! Meaning, it would be clearly obvious to anyone assembling the rotating assembly... should they have the wrong parts. IE: the pistons would be sticking up out of the block... or be way below deck surface.. at TDC !

Now, I realize you are dealing with a aftermarket Dart block (probably Merlin), and I may be off on my compression height, esp IF you are using a different stroke, etc... but my "theory" holds water either way as the deck height difference is SO dramatically different when speaking of a tall block, that any fool could see if they have the wrong parts when it comes to compression height.


So please.... explain the details ! I'll be looking forward to your reply. And, let me appologize in advance if you have some crazy custom rotating assembly that falls outside the limits of normal 427/454/502 stroke and compression height/ rod lenght/ that would allow for such a mistake to escape the trained eye.

I'll be waiting for your reply !

Mark Osborne
Osborne Auto
Fraser, Michigan

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