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JD G COMPRESSION

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ricky c

04-17-2008 17:37:40




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is 110 psi good pressure for a g with a flat head that looks stock.




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jd b puller

04-18-2008 18:09:10




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to ????????????????/, 04-17-2008 17:37:40  

ricky c said: (quoted from post at 20:04:28 04/18/08) thanks for answering the question instead of a spout off. with out taking it apart is there a way to check the piston size.


Ricky, just pull the crankcase cover (the one ahead of the steering post). You should be able to get in there enough to get a pretty good estimate of size. You should be able to tell if it's been stroked or not as well. I'd assume that it's stock, unless he told you it wasn't.

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ricky c

04-18-2008 18:13:36




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to jd b puller, 04-18-2008 18:09:10  
thanks ill try it. are you going to bethune tomorrow



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jd b puller

04-18-2008 19:22:11




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to ricky c, 04-18-2008 18:13:36  
I doubt it. Having ignition problems. Missed last week at Welcome, and ran around like a chicken with my head cut off all this week. Never did get parts ordered. Kinda ticked me off that nobody had points/condensor on hand...



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The Dukester

04-17-2008 18:47:02




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to ricky c, 04-17-2008 17:37:40  
Well, it's okay compression....better than the 65 psi that's stock, that's for sure, but tell me, if your G is a styled model, how do you hide the flat head? That's a dead giveaway to the fact you'll have higher than stock compression...maybe real high if you've got some aluminum high compression pistons too that can't be seen. Flat heads do the job....but you can't hide 'em.



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ricky c

04-18-2008 15:59:13




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to The Dukester, 04-17-2008 18:47:02  
bonus when i bought the tractor. when i bought it the fellow didnt tell me it had a flat head and i didnt know the difference untill i was offered $1200 for it.was told it was a factory retro to increase hp so i am aloud to pull in stock pulls. but i havent won and due to carb and other problems.



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buickanddeere

04-17-2008 20:27:08




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to The Dukester, 04-17-2008 18:47:02  
At least the factory 4.15 to 1 compression would let the engine run on anything that would both pour and burn.



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Life of Riley

04-17-2008 19:47:37




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to The Dukester, 04-17-2008 18:47:02  
If you need stock look just shave your styled head down. You can get it close to flat and have similar compression, and a much better head.



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Hot Rod A

04-18-2008 01:28:43




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to Life of Riley, 04-17-2008 19:47:37  
If it needs to look absolutely stock, then it really doesn"t matter whether you run a flat head or shave down a styled. The reason being is that by taking a tape measure and measuring the head thickness, one can quickly tell if enough has been planed off of the head to make a difference. Sure you probably won"t notice 10 or 15 thou. taken off to true up the head, but at the same time it won"t make a real noticeable difference in compression or performance either. Take off 100 thou. or better on the other hand, it will wake the tractor up, but can be easily noticed by a tape too.

Besides, most places won"t balk too much about a styled G running a regular unstyled G flat head, as it is a Deere part, for a G, etc. Now a Jerrys/Murphys head, that may get into a bit grayer area.
Besides, if you really want to mandate lower or similar to stock compression ratios, just empty everyones fuel tanks and pour in some regular unleaded (87 octane)--Anyone running significantly higher compression will quickly stand out since they"ll be detonating something fierce.

As to the original question, 110psi isn"t bad, but isn"t exactly lots either. With that number, I would guess that you"re either running stock pistons, or an older set of oversize pistons that don"t have much/any dome on them compared to the modern oversize pistons that are designed for burning today"s gas and raise the compression ratio to around 6 or 7 to one with the cyclone head, even higher with a flat head.

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ricky c

04-18-2008 16:04:28




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to Hot Rod A, 04-18-2008 01:28:43  
thanks for answering the question instead of a spout off. with out taking it apart is there a way to check the piston size.



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Hot Rod A

04-18-2008 18:17:36




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to ricky c, 04-18-2008 16:04:28  
Well, it may not exactly be the most accurate, but pop out a spark plug and have the piston on that side @ BDC. Stick a wire through the plug hole and measure how far it goes in until it hits the sleeve on the opposite side of the plug hole. Then measure how deep the plug hole is to the sleeve, and subtract the difference. Like I said, it won't be the most accurate, but its about all you've got to work with without taking anything apart.

About the only other alternative, depending on how small of hands and arms you have, is to pop the inspection cover atop the crankcase off, and get in there and measure the sleeves from the back side of the crankcase. It'll be more accurate, but more of a pain too.

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ricky c

04-18-2008 18:26:31




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to Hot Rod A, 04-18-2008 18:17:36  
thanks that ill try before the inspection hole.what state are in



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Hot Rod A

04-18-2008 19:37:18




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 Re: JD G COMPRESSION in reply to ricky c, 04-18-2008 18:26:31  
Northwest WI.



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