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Bacman

04-07-2003 18:53:24




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I am making plans to build a unit to push air to a face mask--air respirator. How would a small squirrel cage fan work for this, to be controlled with a fader switch for the air volume? Anyone with an idea? Thanks.




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Marty Stange

04-23-2003 16:38:03




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 Re: Air Respirator in reply to Bacman, 04-07-2003 18:53:24  

What you need to look for is a PAPR (Positive Air Purifying Respirator). Find a wholesale outlet for used asbestos removal equipment. They should have some that function correctly. They will be battery powered. The battery will typically last for 12 hours with contineous use. You will be able to buy filter cartiridges as well. Do not attempt to build one yourself. Your lungs are to valuable to waste. You won't get a second chance. Please feel free to email if you have any questions. Marty Stange Juniata, NE

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Pete

04-10-2003 15:54:54




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 Re: Air Respirator in reply to Bacman, 04-07-2003 18:53:24  
Here's what I did...bought a $5.00 air inflator from WalMart.It's not a compressor type pump but instead puts out lots of air at little pressure. Made for inflating things like a air mattress. Sort of like a HVLP pump. Coleman makes the same thing but better for about $25.00 (it put out more air). Anyhow, I use common hosing like you get for a swimming pool filter or sump pump to "pipe" the hose to a home-made helmet that is basicaly a clear plastic bag. The helmet inflates ( puffs up) with the pump running and then you know you have positive air pressure to keep the fumes out. Sometimes I tuck part of the "helmet" under my shirt to maitain the inflation

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Hal/WA

04-10-2003 01:03:51




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 Re: Air Respirator in reply to Bacman, 04-07-2003 18:53:24  
I have wondered if a person could use the exhaust of a very well cleaned shop vac for such an air supply. It would be necessary to have the shop vac a distance away, so the air it was sucking in would not be contaminated by the paint mist, but it wouldn't be much trouble to set up piping with plastic pipe to the painting area.

Do you have any good ideas for a mask? I have looked at some medical stuff, but didn't find anything that seemed very good. I have wondered about a mask from a fire department air pack. Ideas?

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Cliff Neubauer

04-11-2003 18:22:27




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 Re: Re: Air Respirator in reply to Hal/WA, 04-10-2003 01:03:51  
I've heard the Hobby Air units were actually based off of a shop vac blower. You can buy just the Hobby Air face masks from the autobodystore.com site.



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Cliff Neubauer

04-11-2003 18:21:56




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 Re: Re: Air Respirator in reply to Hal/WA, 04-10-2003 01:03:51  
I've heard the Hobby Air units were actually based off of a shop vac blower. You can buy just the Hobby Air face masks from the autobodystore.com site.



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Rod (NH)

04-08-2003 18:38:23




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 Re: Air Respirator in reply to Bacman, 04-07-2003 18:53:24  
Hi Bacman,

The problem I think you may run across is getting a sufficient quantity of air at the facepiece while contending with the necessary pressure drops through a fairly long hose between the air supply and the facepiece.

You will need to supply a minimum of about 4 scfm of air to your facepiece. You need this much to assure a positive pressure (with respect to the outside) inside the facepiece during inhalation. You also need to supply this quantity through a fairly long hose of reasonable diameter. Fifty feet would be about minimum since you must locate your air source where it will not suck in contaminants. This hose has to be a reasonable diameter to avoid becoming more of a problem than a solution in dragging it around with you (together with your gun air line) while you concentrate on the painting itself.

Fans are generally not designed or intended to provide the pressures necessary in supplying air over long distances through relatively small hoses. I personally think you would get a better functioning system by obtaining a dedicated non-lubricated compressor and using standard 3/8" ID air hose for distribution to your facepiece.

In any event, good luck with your project. You do need to have some type of fresh air supply to protect your health if spraying materials containing isocyanates.

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