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bkfran69

07-26-2007 13:40:57




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I am debating on wether to use single stage or bc/cc on the wheels. didnt know what that would look like on such a big cast iron peice with a clear coat. also is it easier to fix mistakes in bc/cc. I think I will go bc/cc for the tractor. and epoxy primer.




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Don-Wi

08-18-2007 23:44:45




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 Re: single stage or bc/cc. in reply to CNKS, 07-26-2007 13:40:57  
I used a single stage Dupont Centari for my Oliver 1600. My brother did the shooting and it laid down really nice, on both cast iron and steel parts. Did have a few runs but he was putting it on a little thick for the temperatures.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Brad_bb

08-17-2007 12:31:19




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 Re: single stage or bc/cc. in reply to bkfran69, 07-26-2007 13:40:57  
Base/Clear is for cars. The tractors were originally painted with single stage and BC/CC would have a different look. I use BC/CC on my classic cars, but single stage acrylic urethane (PPG DCC) for the tractor (and for classic car chassis parts flattened to semigloss). One is not better than the other, just different. Single stage acrylic urethane is good and will look more original, but probably a little better actually. Go single stage on a tractor.

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PhilC

07-29-2007 13:57:15




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 Re: single stage or bc/cc. in reply to bkfran69, 07-26-2007 13:40:57  

bkfran69 said: The only reason I was wanting to use the bc/cc is it would be more durable and spray easier. I am painting a jd so the wheels is a different color from the rest of the tractor so dont have to worry about matching.


If you're using single stage urethane it will be almost as durable as BC/CC. The only real difference between them would be the depth of the clear element between the single stage (about .5 mil) and the two stage (about 2 mils). If it were me, I'd just shoot single stage urethane and be done with it, that way I wouldn't have to spray the wheels twice.third party image

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Nylon

07-26-2007 21:24:58




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 Re: single stage or bc/cc. in reply to bkfran69, 07-26-2007 13:40:57  
I'm shooting single stage omni right now. Why hassle with base/clear? My hot rod builder buddies love how single stage omni lays down. much much smoother than clear for some reason.

Plus not sure how you would mistake on a wheel..and if there was a problem....I think single is an easy reshoot.



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bkfran69

07-29-2007 06:28:46




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 Re: single stage or bc/cc. in reply to Nylon, 07-26-2007 21:24:58  

Nylon said: (quoted from post at 21:24:58 07/26/07) I'm shooting single stage omni right now. Why hassle with base/clear? My hot rod builder buddies love how single stage omni lays down. much much smoother than clear for some reason.

Plus not sure how you would mistake on a wheel..and if there was a problem....I think single is an easy reshoot.


The only reason I was wanting to use the bc/cc is it would be more durable and spray easier. I am painting a jd so the wheels is a different color from the rest of the tractor so dont have to worry about matching.

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PhilC

07-26-2007 20:29:15




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 Re: single stage or bc/cc. in reply to bkfran69, 07-26-2007 13:40:57  
IMHO there is no need for BC/CC when spraying a solid color, well, maybe for a show piece if it were nice smooth steel. If you were spraying a metallic or pearlescent color, then I would highly recommend the BC/CC process as it is much easier to accomplish.

CNKS is right about color match. We deal with it every day and we have a 60 toner mixing bank and computerized mixing systems.third party image

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CNKS

07-26-2007 18:22:46




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 Re: single stage or bc/cc. in reply to bkfran69, 07-26-2007 13:40:57  
The cast parts do not need base-clear, and I see no advantage to it. HOWEVER, if you use base-clear on the sheet metal and single stage on the cast, those are two different paint formulas, they may or may not match--but, I say this having never used base-clear. Even if you use all single stage, example is PPG Omni on the cast, and PPG concept on the sheet metal, there is no guarantee that they will match perfectly.

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IH RED

08-09-2007 22:36:56




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 Re: single stage or bc/cc. in reply to CNKS, 07-26-2007 18:22:46  
i use sigle stage on the cast and b/c on the hood gas tank and grill and i have no problems matching...i did run in to a problem 1 time when i did this the tone of my single stage was of a shade so i blended it in like you would when u do collision refinishing...blending does take a lil time to master tho...



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